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		<title>Comment on Bernard Lander, ז&#8221;ל by Shalom Rosenfeld</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2010/02/09/bernard-lander-%d7%96%d7%9c/comment-page-1/#comment-381932</link>
		<dc:creator>Shalom Rosenfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Nachum.  But Rabbi Adlerstein wasn&#039;t that far off the mark -- several (most?) of Ohr HaChaim&#039;s rebbeim did learn in Brisk in Israel (including co-Rosh-Yeshiva Rabbi Kraus), and R&#039; Daniel&#039;s mehalech halimud is definitely Brisk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Nachum.  But Rabbi Adlerstein wasn&#8217;t that far off the mark &#8212; several (most?) of Ohr HaChaim&#8217;s rebbeim did learn in Brisk in Israel (including co-Rosh-Yeshiva Rabbi Kraus), and R&#8217; Daniel&#8217;s mehalech halimud is definitely Brisk.</p>
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		<title>Comment on China, Skepticism and Belief by Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2010/01/29/china-skepticism-and-belief/comment-page-1/#comment-381931</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not making any definitive claims, but...

&quot;Surely these shall come from afar; Look, those from the north and the west; And these from the land of Sinim.&quot; (Isaiah 49: 12).

I&#039;ll need to brush up on, ahem, Sinology to see if there&#039;s any meat to this theory that Sinim refers to China. Some of the gentile concordances make this claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not making any definitive claims, but&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Surely these shall come from afar; Look, those from the north and the west; And these from the land of Sinim.&#8221; (Isaiah 49: 12).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll need to brush up on, ahem, Sinology to see if there&#8217;s any meat to this theory that Sinim refers to China. Some of the gentile concordances make this claim.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bernard Lander, ז&#8221;ל by Nachum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nachum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yehi Zichro Baruch.

One factual point:

&quot;His son, however, the Rosh Yeshiva of Ohr HaChaim, learned in Brisk.&quot;

His son, like his father, learned in YU and got semikha from there (from the Rav). Neither were at all reticent to &quot;admit&quot; the fact.

[YA - others have also written to point this out.  There was nothing nefarious intended, and no attempt to co-opt the younger R. Lander for the charedi world. The comment was merely born of my personal observation that once a Brisker, always a Brisker.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yehi Zichro Baruch.</p>
<p>One factual point:</p>
<p>&#8220;His son, however, the Rosh Yeshiva of Ohr HaChaim, learned in Brisk.&#8221;</p>
<p>His son, like his father, learned in YU and got semikha from there (from the Rav). Neither were at all reticent to &#8220;admit&#8221; the fact.</p>
<p>[YA - others have also written to point this out.  There was nothing nefarious intended, and no attempt to co-opt the younger R. Lander for the charedi world. The comment was merely born of my personal observation that once a Brisker, always a Brisker.]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Myth of Mundanity by another Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>another Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Seforno, in his commentary to Tazriah, suggests that Hashgacha Pratis is reserved only for Tzadikim.  In such a paradigm, it means the woman in the story missed her flight because of... bad traffic.
Hashgacha Pratis is often understood in the sense of a mechanical, deterministic universe.  God thus becomes reduced to its operator/ engineer.

[YA - 1) The Seforno may very well mean that hashgacha peratis that will allow for semi-miraculous manifestations like nega&#039;im as a consequence of aveirah. He does not necessarily mean that HKBH micro-managing our lives in an unobtrusive way is reserved only for tzadikim. 2) Please show who &quot;often&quot; understands a deterministic universe as hashgacha peratis.  Kelalis, perhaps. But I, for one, have no recollection of ever seeing the term used the way you are using it.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Seforno, in his commentary to Tazriah, suggests that Hashgacha Pratis is reserved only for Tzadikim.  In such a paradigm, it means the woman in the story missed her flight because of&#8230; bad traffic.<br />
Hashgacha Pratis is often understood in the sense of a mechanical, deterministic universe.  God thus becomes reduced to its operator/ engineer.</p>
<p>[YA - 1) The Seforno may very well mean that hashgacha peratis that will allow for semi-miraculous manifestations like nega'im as a consequence of aveirah. He does not necessarily mean that HKBH micro-managing our lives in an unobtrusive way is reserved only for tzadikim. 2) Please show who "often" understands a deterministic universe as hashgacha peratis.  Kelalis, perhaps. But I, for one, have no recollection of ever seeing the term used the way you are using it.]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Myth of Mundanity by Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we say every Motzei Shabbos in Havdalah...&quot;Hamavdil bein Kodesh l&#039;Chol...&quot;
The Holy cannot be fully appreciated if not in relation to the mundane, and vice versa. Both are necessary. The mussar lesson here is that we must realize that we would be unable to reach spiritual &quot;highs&quot; without also experiencing spiritual &quot;lows&quot; and we must learn to thank HaShem for both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we say every Motzei Shabbos in Havdalah&#8230;&#8221;Hamavdil bein Kodesh l&#8217;Chol&#8230;&#8221;<br />
The Holy cannot be fully appreciated if not in relation to the mundane, and vice versa. Both are necessary. The mussar lesson here is that we must realize that we would be unable to reach spiritual &#8220;highs&#8221; without also experiencing spiritual &#8220;lows&#8221; and we must learn to thank HaShem for both.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Micronesia Principle by Ori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles B. Hall, the reason Micronesia doesn&#039;t have a tourism industry is geographic. They are too far away from anybody who is rich enough to want to be a tourist. Long flights are not fun.

If anything &lt;b&gt;can&lt;/b&gt; improve the Micronesian economy, it is outsourcing of information processing of some kind. Distance doesn&#039;t mean that much when you communicate using a satellite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles B. Hall, the reason Micronesia doesn&#8217;t have a tourism industry is geographic. They are too far away from anybody who is rich enough to want to be a tourist. Long flights are not fun.</p>
<p>If anything <b>can</b> improve the Micronesian economy, it is outsourcing of information processing of some kind. Distance doesn&#8217;t mean that much when you communicate using a satellite.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Myth of Mundanity by Avigail Melzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avigail Melzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;there was a reason. &quot;  
Of course!  Maybe, that very day someone else who was interviewed for the job, but would have been turned down in favor of the woman who missed her flight, was taken on - and, who knows, perhaps thereby saved her family from financial disaster? It&#039;s very easy to see how all the various flukes of hashgacha pratis that are so beneficial to us can either be detrimental or simply have no meaning or significance to the other protagonists in the event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;there was a reason. &#8221;<br />
Of course!  Maybe, that very day someone else who was interviewed for the job, but would have been turned down in favor of the woman who missed her flight, was taken on &#8211; and, who knows, perhaps thereby saved her family from financial disaster? It&#8217;s very easy to see how all the various flukes of hashgacha pratis that are so beneficial to us can either be detrimental or simply have no meaning or significance to the other protagonists in the event.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A long-awaited trip to Israel by Shira Schmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shira Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome. You might want to put Kiryat Sanz, Netanya, on your itinerary. I would be happy to show your daughter the institutions of chessed and Torah learning that the late Klausenberger Rebbe, ztz&quot;l, established: Sanz Medical Center, Laniado Hospital, Tessler School of Nursing (where your daughter might later on want to study in its American program),Beis Avos, yeshivos, Children&#039;s Home (takes in girls from dysfunctional families throughout Israel), etc. I will also show you a movie where the Rebbe zy&quot;a tells about his experience during the Shoah, and what motivated him to establish all these mosdos. You can contact me at shiras@netvision.net.il</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome. You might want to put Kiryat Sanz, Netanya, on your itinerary. I would be happy to show your daughter the institutions of chessed and Torah learning that the late Klausenberger Rebbe, ztz&#8221;l, established: Sanz Medical Center, Laniado Hospital, Tessler School of Nursing (where your daughter might later on want to study in its American program),Beis Avos, yeshivos, Children&#8217;s Home (takes in girls from dysfunctional families throughout Israel), etc. I will also show you a movie where the Rebbe zy&#8221;a tells about his experience during the Shoah, and what motivated him to establish all these mosdos. You can contact me at <a href="mailto:shiras@netvision.net.il">shiras@netvision.net.il</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The place of a non-believing Jew by Debby</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2010/01/25/the-place-of-a-non-believing-jew/comment-page-2/#comment-381913</link>
		<dc:creator>Debby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie: 

Thank you for writing. I was getting a bit annoyed with people psychoanalyzing someone they knew nothing about. You can&#039;t force yourself to believe. I know; I tried. What you can do is practice Judaism. And meanwhile, I highly recommend reading Rabbi Lawrence Kelemen&#039;s books &quot;Permission to Believe&quot; and &quot;Permission to Receive&quot; and Rabbi Dovid Gottlieb&#039;s &quot;Living Up to the Truth&quot; (available on line at the ohr.edu website). Neither claims to prove the existence of God or the truth of the Torah. Both show that it&#039;s rational to believe, and that atheism is, in fact, irrational. Just as we don&#039;t have to have 100% certainty about other areas in life in order to take action, we don&#039;t have to have 100% certainty about the existence of God to keep Shabbos, for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie: </p>
<p>Thank you for writing. I was getting a bit annoyed with people psychoanalyzing someone they knew nothing about. You can&#8217;t force yourself to believe. I know; I tried. What you can do is practice Judaism. And meanwhile, I highly recommend reading Rabbi Lawrence Kelemen&#8217;s books &#8220;Permission to Believe&#8221; and &#8220;Permission to Receive&#8221; and Rabbi Dovid Gottlieb&#8217;s &#8220;Living Up to the Truth&#8221; (available on line at the ohr.edu website). Neither claims to prove the existence of God or the truth of the Torah. Both show that it&#8217;s rational to believe, and that atheism is, in fact, irrational. Just as we don&#8217;t have to have 100% certainty about other areas in life in order to take action, we don&#8217;t have to have 100% certainty about the existence of God to keep Shabbos, for instance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Advice for the Job Forlorn by Isaac Moses</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2010/01/03/advice-for-the-job-forlorn/comment-page-2/#comment-381906</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac Moses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eli said (#21):

&lt;i&gt;There is no reason why a job seeker can not ask the “frum network” to get an unpaid internship (even in a “heimishe” company) in the area which he or she wants to go into.&lt;/i&gt;

I think that an internship in a heimishe company, while a step in the right direction, could serve to reinforce some of the un-beneficial behaviors listed above. In a heimishe environment, heimishe styles of behavior may be preferred over standard professional styles, and even if they&#039;re not preferred, they&#039;re likely to be tolerated. The intern then a) doesn&#039;t learn how to behave professionally, and b) gets the impression that his current behavioral style is fine for the workplace.

It would probably be much more useful for people who need to be acclimated to the general workplace to start with an internship or even a menial job in a completely secular environment. Alternatively, frum business owners could provide a great service to the community by first maintaining a professional atmosphere in their businesses and then hiring interns and deliberately coaching them when their behavior wouldn&#039;t cut it in a non-heimishe environment.

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Regarding shaking hands with the opposite gender:
I personally do shake hands, so this hasn&#039;t been an issue for me. I have heard stories from multiple sources of people (usually prominent rabbis) who manage to refuse to shake hands with enough finesse to defuse any potential ill will. For job candidates who absolutely won&#039;t shake hands, this may be something to shoot for with the following very important caveat:

As mentioned above, refusing to shake hands is an automatic negative. You will have to work very hard to make it neutral. This may sound silly, but you must develop a script and PRACTICE delivering it with a big smile while looking directly at the other person until people you practice it with agree that you&#039;re incredibly natural and friendly. First, practice over and over in front of a mirror, then practice with a family member or other trusted observer of the opposite gender. To develop a script, get advice people who routinely pull off such a maneuver successfully (Rabbis who deal with outside entities or non-shaking professionals).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eli said (#21):</p>
<p><i>There is no reason why a job seeker can not ask the “frum network” to get an unpaid internship (even in a “heimishe” company) in the area which he or she wants to go into.</i></p>
<p>I think that an internship in a heimishe company, while a step in the right direction, could serve to reinforce some of the un-beneficial behaviors listed above. In a heimishe environment, heimishe styles of behavior may be preferred over standard professional styles, and even if they&#8217;re not preferred, they&#8217;re likely to be tolerated. The intern then a) doesn&#8217;t learn how to behave professionally, and b) gets the impression that his current behavioral style is fine for the workplace.</p>
<p>It would probably be much more useful for people who need to be acclimated to the general workplace to start with an internship or even a menial job in a completely secular environment. Alternatively, frum business owners could provide a great service to the community by first maintaining a professional atmosphere in their businesses and then hiring interns and deliberately coaching them when their behavior wouldn&#8217;t cut it in a non-heimishe environment.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Regarding shaking hands with the opposite gender:<br />
I personally do shake hands, so this hasn&#8217;t been an issue for me. I have heard stories from multiple sources of people (usually prominent rabbis) who manage to refuse to shake hands with enough finesse to defuse any potential ill will. For job candidates who absolutely won&#8217;t shake hands, this may be something to shoot for with the following very important caveat:</p>
<p>As mentioned above, refusing to shake hands is an automatic negative. You will have to work very hard to make it neutral. This may sound silly, but you must develop a script and PRACTICE delivering it with a big smile while looking directly at the other person until people you practice it with agree that you&#8217;re incredibly natural and friendly. First, practice over and over in front of a mirror, then practice with a family member or other trusted observer of the opposite gender. To develop a script, get advice people who routinely pull off such a maneuver successfully (Rabbis who deal with outside entities or non-shaking professionals).</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Micronesia Principle by Charles B. Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles B. Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Micronesia is a tiny, poor country with no real natural resources and just over a hundred thousand people. About a quarter of their economy is foreign aid, and most employed persons there work for their tiny government. Perhaps we Jews could help finance and support a tourism industry that really doesn&#039;t exist yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micronesia is a tiny, poor country with no real natural resources and just over a hundred thousand people. About a quarter of their economy is foreign aid, and most employed persons there work for their tiny government. Perhaps we Jews could help finance and support a tourism industry that really doesn&#8217;t exist yet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Haiti and the Mind of G-d by One Christian's perspective</title>
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		<dc:creator>One Christian's perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rabbi Feldman, your article reflected the sadness that I felt when I heard about these insensitive remarks at a time of great suffering.  Were they necessary, were they helpful, did they bring Glory to God ?   The ministry of this particular religious leader has had people on the ground for years helping the poor of Haiti and some of the Haitians agree with his statement.  During the aftermath of Katrina, I heard - from TV- similar comments from Christians as they boarded the bus to leave New Orleans.  Since I do not live in either place, it is hard to know what the religious/anti-religious climate is there.    

Recently I read an article written by Chief Rabbi Sir Jonathan Sacks &quot;Thank God for the courage to live with adversity&quot;.  It was beautiful and uplifting but he began with a comment about the recession and closed with a comment about the wake-up call, which is what the recession is.&quot;  He is right !  In the midst of a recession within a world overcome with greed and its consequences, God has softened our hearts toward the people of Haiti - strangers to most of us;  He has brought us to our knees to pray for those suffering and for those who are trying to help; and in the midst of a great recession, He has opened our wallets and storehouses so that we can with joy and eagerness send what ever we can for the relief.  I rejoice that both Christian and Jew can share Rabbi Sacks prayer published on this site.  

If you believe God is Sovereign, you have to acknowledge that He is also an active participant in the course of human history and not a silent observer who sees from a great distance.  

I appreciate your words spoken in honesty and concern. There is much truth in being careful to discern words of others who claim to know God&#039;s purpose and plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabbi Feldman, your article reflected the sadness that I felt when I heard about these insensitive remarks at a time of great suffering.  Were they necessary, were they helpful, did they bring Glory to God ?   The ministry of this particular religious leader has had people on the ground for years helping the poor of Haiti and some of the Haitians agree with his statement.  During the aftermath of Katrina, I heard &#8211; from TV- similar comments from Christians as they boarded the bus to leave New Orleans.  Since I do not live in either place, it is hard to know what the religious/anti-religious climate is there.    </p>
<p>Recently I read an article written by Chief Rabbi Sir Jonathan Sacks &#8220;Thank God for the courage to live with adversity&#8221;.  It was beautiful and uplifting but he began with a comment about the recession and closed with a comment about the wake-up call, which is what the recession is.&#8221;  He is right !  In the midst of a recession within a world overcome with greed and its consequences, God has softened our hearts toward the people of Haiti &#8211; strangers to most of us;  He has brought us to our knees to pray for those suffering and for those who are trying to help; and in the midst of a great recession, He has opened our wallets and storehouses so that we can with joy and eagerness send what ever we can for the relief.  I rejoice that both Christian and Jew can share Rabbi Sacks prayer published on this site.  </p>
<p>If you believe God is Sovereign, you have to acknowledge that He is also an active participant in the course of human history and not a silent observer who sees from a great distance.  </p>
<p>I appreciate your words spoken in honesty and concern. There is much truth in being careful to discern words of others who claim to know God&#8217;s purpose and plan.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A long-awaited trip to Israel by Daniel Rubin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Rubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R&#039; Harvey,

I hope you start a trend in which people invest more in private personal development of the Bar/Bat Mitzva rather than the public celebration.


I would love it if you followed up this post with any instances of how you explained to Tehilla the elements of Israeli Chareidi society that we are all  struggling to understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R&#8217; Harvey,</p>
<p>I hope you start a trend in which people invest more in private personal development of the Bar/Bat Mitzva rather than the public celebration.</p>
<p>I would love it if you followed up this post with any instances of how you explained to Tehilla the elements of Israeli Chareidi society that we are all  struggling to understand.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A long-awaited trip to Israel by cholentluvr</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2010/02/02/a-long-awaited-trip-to-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-381890</link>
		<dc:creator>cholentluvr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tehilla doesn&#039;t realize how lucky she is. Most girls see Israel for the 1st time during their seminary year (if at all)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tehilla doesn&#8217;t realize how lucky she is. Most girls see Israel for the 1st time during their seminary year (if at all)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Haiti and the Mind of G-d by Zvi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zvi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct me if I am wrong, but are there not sources in Chazal attributing particular natural disasters or occurences to specific sins?

[YA - Yes, but that does not mean a point-to-point correspondence between a sin and the disaster. Maharal in particular opines that Chazal understood that there were natural explanations for disasters. Particular aveiros, however, are the reason why HKBH designed a world in which such disasters could occur.  See Be&#039;er HaGolah pgs 63-63 and Netzach Yisrael pgs.113-114. See also my essay &quot;Earthquakes and the Fuzziness of Creation&quot; in Be&#039;er HaGolah (Artscroll) pgs. 122-132]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if I am wrong, but are there not sources in Chazal attributing particular natural disasters or occurences to specific sins?</p>
<p>[YA - Yes, but that does not mean a point-to-point correspondence between a sin and the disaster. Maharal in particular opines that Chazal understood that there were natural explanations for disasters. Particular aveiros, however, are the reason why HKBH designed a world in which such disasters could occur.  See Be'er HaGolah pgs 63-63 and Netzach Yisrael pgs.113-114. See also my essay "Earthquakes and the Fuzziness of Creation" in Be'er HaGolah (Artscroll) pgs. 122-132]</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Personal Note to Cross-Currents Readers by lacosta</title>
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		<dc:creator>lacosta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our Gedolim remain *our* Gedolim, the chachomim that are the einei ha’eidah for our times.


--- maybe  this is the  crux  of the issue--- maybe  non-haredim  have  to  leave  haredim the space  to have  *their*  gdolim,  but to be brave  enough to say &#039;those are not  our leaders, we don&#039;t look to them, and consequently have no ax to grind with them [ except maybe when they criticize other eidot]&#039;           if  haredi rank-and-file  are satisfied with their  leadership, maybe  it&#039;s no one else&#039;s business;
but of course non-haredi O jews  have the space  to reject leadership/gdolim/organizations that disagree/disavow/disparage them and theirs....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Gedolim remain *our* Gedolim, the chachomim that are the einei ha’eidah for our times.</p>
<p>&#8212; maybe  this is the  crux  of the issue&#8212; maybe  non-haredim  have  to  leave  haredim the space  to have  *their*  gdolim,  but to be brave  enough to say &#8216;those are not  our leaders, we don&#8217;t look to them, and consequently have no ax to grind with them [ except maybe when they criticize other eidot]&#8216;           if  haredi rank-and-file  are satisfied with their  leadership, maybe  it&#8217;s no one else&#8217;s business;<br />
but of course non-haredi O jews  have the space  to reject leadership/gdolim/organizations that disagree/disavow/disparage them and theirs&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Take Two! by be</title>
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		<dc:creator>be</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece. Where is the Vorker quote from? I&#039;d like to find it - and his other thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece. Where is the Vorker quote from? I&#8217;d like to find it &#8211; and his other thoughts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Micronesia Principle by Ori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emet v&#039;Emunah: &lt;i&gt;while the Jewish people have only one G-d, He may well have a special relationship with more than one nation.&lt;/i&gt;

Ori: Does the Torah tell us of all the covenants G-d made with humanity, or only of those that are relevant to us? Does it say anywhere there can&#039;t be other chosen people, possibly chosen for different jobs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emet v&#8217;Emunah: <i>while the Jewish people have only one G-d, He may well have a special relationship with more than one nation.</i></p>
<p>Ori: Does the Torah tell us of all the covenants G-d made with humanity, or only of those that are relevant to us? Does it say anywhere there can&#8217;t be other chosen people, possibly chosen for different jobs?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Micronesia Principle by Tal Benschar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tal Benschar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason, I am reminded about the Gemara that states &quot;Hillel mechayev es ha aniim, R. Elazar b. Horkenos mechayev es ha ashirim.&quot;  In the future when Hashem judges those who did not learn Torah, people will give all kinds of excuses:  the poor will say they are too worried about livelihood to learn; the rich will say they are too worried about their possessions to learn.  Then Hashem will point to Hillel (who learned in abject poverty) and R. Elazar b. Horkenos (who was very wealthy) as examples of those who learned despite their situation.

(Similarly, R. Soloveichik interpreteted a Rashi at the beginning of Vayera that Avraham was mechayev Sodom -- Avraham was a tremendous baal chesed who lived in the same environment as Sodom, the most selfish, cruel society on earth.  Avraham&#039;s chesed sweeps away any excuse by the Sodomites that it is their situation or environment which caused them to be selfish and cruel.)

Le&#039;atid lavo, when the nations of the world are called to account for their cruel, repeated, obsessive condemnations of Israel, they will render all kinds of excuses -- they were weak, they were strong, they had financial interests, they went along with the crowd, etc. etc.  Then HKBH can point to the United States -- the strongest and wealthiest nation on earth -- and Micronesia -- one of the smallest and most obscure.  Still, they stood with Israel.  That is mechayev all the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason, I am reminded about the Gemara that states &#8220;Hillel mechayev es ha aniim, R. Elazar b. Horkenos mechayev es ha ashirim.&#8221;  In the future when Hashem judges those who did not learn Torah, people will give all kinds of excuses:  the poor will say they are too worried about livelihood to learn; the rich will say they are too worried about their possessions to learn.  Then Hashem will point to Hillel (who learned in abject poverty) and R. Elazar b. Horkenos (who was very wealthy) as examples of those who learned despite their situation.</p>
<p>(Similarly, R. Soloveichik interpreteted a Rashi at the beginning of Vayera that Avraham was mechayev Sodom &#8212; Avraham was a tremendous baal chesed who lived in the same environment as Sodom, the most selfish, cruel society on earth.  Avraham&#8217;s chesed sweeps away any excuse by the Sodomites that it is their situation or environment which caused them to be selfish and cruel.)</p>
<p>Le&#8217;atid lavo, when the nations of the world are called to account for their cruel, repeated, obsessive condemnations of Israel, they will render all kinds of excuses &#8212; they were weak, they were strong, they had financial interests, they went along with the crowd, etc. etc.  Then HKBH can point to the United States &#8212; the strongest and wealthiest nation on earth &#8212; and Micronesia &#8212; one of the smallest and most obscure.  Still, they stood with Israel.  That is mechayev all the rest.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Seamless White Cloak by dr. bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>dr. bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rabbi Beckerman, Consider yourself in good company; my question remains regardless of who might agree with you. The CI ztl&#039;s explanation, as you reference it, is neither the pshat of rishonim (see - Rashi or Seforna) nor is it normative (Choshen Mishpat 9).  I suspect he may be making a related but different point; I need to think about his viewpoint more carefully.  Perhaps, in &quot;brisker&quot; fashion how a student should treat his teachers may be different than how indviduals (even tzaddikim) ought treat themselves.

In this case, particularly, given the financial aid and largesse that was funneled through the individual in question, one would expect many not to investigate but recuse themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabbi Beckerman, Consider yourself in good company; my question remains regardless of who might agree with you. The CI ztl&#8217;s explanation, as you reference it, is neither the pshat of rishonim (see &#8211; Rashi or Seforna) nor is it normative (Choshen Mishpat 9).  I suspect he may be making a related but different point; I need to think about his viewpoint more carefully.  Perhaps, in &#8220;brisker&#8221; fashion how a student should treat his teachers may be different than how indviduals (even tzaddikim) ought treat themselves.</p>
<p>In this case, particularly, given the financial aid and largesse that was funneled through the individual in question, one would expect many not to investigate but recuse themselves.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Haiti and the Mind of G-d by dr. bill</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2010/02/02/haiti-and-the-mind-of-g-d/comment-page-1/#comment-381869</link>
		<dc:creator>dr. bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rabbi Feldman, You write: &quot;This is what the genuine prophet Zecharia meant when he said, in 14:9, “On that day G-d will be one and His name will be one.” Until then, G-d’s ways remain concealed – even from those who would claim to have full access to His divine chambers.&quot;


We never can know why; that equates to knowing the ways of God.  That, as Isaiah (55:) says so eloquently, is beyond our human comprehension. As the Rav ztl taught in the beginning of Kol Dodi Dofaik, we can only hope to react properly, not by understanding why but by acting with greater attention to our religious obligations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabbi Feldman, You write: &#8220;This is what the genuine prophet Zecharia meant when he said, in 14:9, “On that day G-d will be one and His name will be one.” Until then, G-d’s ways remain concealed – even from those who would claim to have full access to His divine chambers.&#8221;</p>
<p>We never can know why; that equates to knowing the ways of God.  That, as Isaiah (55:) says so eloquently, is beyond our human comprehension. As the Rav ztl taught in the beginning of Kol Dodi Dofaik, we can only hope to react properly, not by understanding why but by acting with greater attention to our religious obligations.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Personal Note to Cross-Currents Readers by Dovid Kornreich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dovid Kornreich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Considering how much time and effort you’ve spent on Slifkin-related issues on your blog and elsewhere, how is it that you have not managed to access all sides’ “versions” by now?

Comment by Bob Miller — February 1, 2010 @ 9:22 am &lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t think you realize how much disconnect there is between blogging about issues and real people&#039;s lives and stories.
The people involved in the making ban do not have any posted information about the ban process for me to access and I am not the &quot;hocker type&quot; to track them down and interview them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Considering how much time and effort you’ve spent on Slifkin-related issues on your blog and elsewhere, how is it that you have not managed to access all sides’ “versions” by now?</p>
<p>Comment by Bob Miller — February 1, 2010 @ 9:22 am </i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you realize how much disconnect there is between blogging about issues and real people&#8217;s lives and stories.<br />
The people involved in the making ban do not have any posted information about the ban process for me to access and I am not the &#8220;hocker type&#8221; to track them down and interview them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A long-awaited trip to Israel by Mr. Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for visiting the Holy Land; it is so much more praiseworthy than visiting countries where the native people hate Jews passionately.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Haiti and the Mind of G-d by Shua Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2010/02/02/haiti-and-the-mind-of-g-d/comment-page-1/#comment-381866</link>
		<dc:creator>Shua Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We say thrice daily, in the second paragraph of Aleinu, that we hope to see the day when, during the final geula, the Ribbono Shel Olam will remove idolatry from the earth and cuts off all false gods. Well, isn&#039;t it possible that that day has arrived? [&quot;Look up &quot;Haitian Vodou&quot; on Wikipedia: it is one of the most egregious examples of idolatry and witchcraft extant in the world today].

There has been much written suggesting that we are NOW in the ultimate times of chevlei Moshiach (birth pangs of Messiah). See, for example:

1) &quot;Redemption Unfolding&quot; (Feldheim) by Rabbi A. Mandelbaum, of Yeshivas Mir in Yerushalayim; or
2) &quot;A Question of Redemption&quot; (Kol Mevaser Publ.) by Rabbi Y.M. Bergman; or
3) &quot;On Eagles Wings&quot; (Targum/Feldheim) by Rabbi Hershel Brand of Yeshivas Ner Yaakov; or
4) &quot;What&#039;s Next: Doomsday and Redemption,&quot; a fascinating shiur by Rabbi Eliyahu Kin of the Torah Ohr Center in Los Angeles (viewable on YouTube).

HaRav Simcha Wasserman zt&quot;l (in &quot;Reb Simcha Speaks&quot;) and HaRav Aharon Feldman shlit&quot;a, Rosh Yeshiva of Ner Yisrael (in &quot;The Eye of the Storm&quot;) address this issue of chevlei Moshiach in our day, as well.

So, if perchance we are there, we do have an inkling as to what to expect. Both Navi&#039;im and Chazal have told us that during the time of chevlei Moshiach the world will experience many man-made and natural disasters, and that many people will perish. I am amazed at how many blog commenters on the issue of current natural disasters seem to be in denial of this, apparently for the sake of &#039;political correctness.&#039;

But how do we ignore an incredibly prescient Droshos HaRan (Hadrush Hashishi) where we find the following statement: &quot;Sometimes events occur in faraway places and on faraway islands in order to stir Israel to do teshuva, with dread and fear, lest the same punishment come upon them. This is what the prophet said (Tzefanya 3:6-7): &#039;I have destroyed nations, I have laid waste their towers, and I have turned their streets into desolate ruins, and left their cities devastated and uninhabited. I said simply: Fear Me and learn a lesson.&#039; When you do not suffer in response to the terrible tragedies of others, the punishment does not end; rather, it travels closer and closer to you. There is no doubt that these landmark events are truly warnings from Hashem.&quot; 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We say thrice daily, in the second paragraph of Aleinu, that we hope to see the day when, during the final geula, the Ribbono Shel Olam will remove idolatry from the earth and cuts off all false gods. Well, isn&#8217;t it possible that that day has arrived? ["Look up "Haitian Vodou" on Wikipedia: it is one of the most egregious examples of idolatry and witchcraft extant in the world today].</p>
<p>There has been much written suggesting that we are NOW in the ultimate times of chevlei Moshiach (birth pangs of Messiah). See, for example:</p>
<p>1) &#8220;Redemption Unfolding&#8221; (Feldheim) by Rabbi A. Mandelbaum, of Yeshivas Mir in Yerushalayim; or<br />
2) &#8220;A Question of Redemption&#8221; (Kol Mevaser Publ.) by Rabbi Y.M. Bergman; or<br />
3) &#8220;On Eagles Wings&#8221; (Targum/Feldheim) by Rabbi Hershel Brand of Yeshivas Ner Yaakov; or<br />
4) &#8220;What&#8217;s Next: Doomsday and Redemption,&#8221; a fascinating shiur by Rabbi Eliyahu Kin of the Torah Ohr Center in Los Angeles (viewable on YouTube).</p>
<p>HaRav Simcha Wasserman zt&#8221;l (in &#8220;Reb Simcha Speaks&#8221;) and HaRav Aharon Feldman shlit&#8221;a, Rosh Yeshiva of Ner Yisrael (in &#8220;The Eye of the Storm&#8221;) address this issue of chevlei Moshiach in our day, as well.</p>
<p>So, if perchance we are there, we do have an inkling as to what to expect. Both Navi&#8217;im and Chazal have told us that during the time of chevlei Moshiach the world will experience many man-made and natural disasters, and that many people will perish. I am amazed at how many blog commenters on the issue of current natural disasters seem to be in denial of this, apparently for the sake of &#8216;political correctness.&#8217;</p>
<p>But how do we ignore an incredibly prescient Droshos HaRan (Hadrush Hashishi) where we find the following statement: &#8220;Sometimes events occur in faraway places and on faraway islands in order to stir Israel to do teshuva, with dread and fear, lest the same punishment come upon them. This is what the prophet said (Tzefanya 3:6-7): &#8216;I have destroyed nations, I have laid waste their towers, and I have turned their streets into desolate ruins, and left their cities devastated and uninhabited. I said simply: Fear Me and learn a lesson.&#8217; When you do not suffer in response to the terrible tragedies of others, the punishment does not end; rather, it travels closer and closer to you. There is no doubt that these landmark events are truly warnings from Hashem.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on A long-awaited trip to Israel by Yehoshua Friedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yehoshua Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As London turns more and more into Londonistan, you should be preparing to come home, not just visit.</description>
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