Can We Do Anything to Lessen the Hatred?


Already five years ago, a prominent American rosh yeshiva told me that we might be approaching the end of a miraculous period in which the secular Israeli government became the prime supporter of Torah learning on a scale unprecedented in Jewish history. If the new coalition guidelines are implemented, that moment has arrived.

The incoming government coalition results from a concatenation of long-range political trends and a series of inexplicable blunders by veteran politicians. First, we’ll consider the long-range trends. From 1977 until 2005, the Israeli public was divided primarily over the “peace process,” a trend that became even more pronounced after the signing of the Oslo Accords. Each side was willing to offer the chareidi parties whatever was required to join their coalition to prevail on the issue of paramount importance to them.

Since the failure of the 2005 Gaza withdrawal, Israelis have soured on the possibility of peace and concluded that further territorial withdrawals will only result in the creation of another launching pad for rocket and terrorist attacks. That consensus closed the great fissure in Israeli politics. With issues of war and peace dormant, the possibility of new coalitions around other issues arose. Chareidi parties no longer hold the balance of power on the issue of paramount importance to most voters. Indeed for much of the non-chareidi public, the chareidim themselves are the most important issue.

Still, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu was eager to retain the traditional alliance between Likud and the chareidi parties, in forming his new government. One does not sever old and reliable allies when the political roadmap ahead is filled with potholes. Unfortunately, the math did not work out. For one thing, Netanyahu made two bad decisions: He did not time new elections to coincide with the height of his popularity, and he decided to merge Likud and Yisrael Beitanu, whose leader, Avigdor Lieberman, immediately found himself under criminal indictment. As a result, Netanyahu ended up with ten less mandates than anticipated.

Second, Shas leader Rabbi Aryeh Deri feared having Bayit Yehudi headed by Naftali Bennett in the coalition, where it would threaten Shas’s control of the state religious establishment. Netanyahu had his own reasons for not wanting Bennett in the cabinet. The result was to drive Bennett’s settler party into the arms of the yuppies of Yesh Atid party, whose leader Yair Lapid has been a persistent critic of the settlement enterprise.

That unlikely pairing could unravel rapidly if President Obama pressures Israel for concessions to the Palestinians in return for American action on Iran. But it held rock firm throughout the drawn out coalition negotiations. The issue upon which Lapid and Bennett found common ground was “equality of service” – shorthand for greater chareidi participation in the IDF or national service. Interestingly, in an interview with Mishpacha during the campaign, Bennett did not once mention “equality of service.” He presented himself as someone who would provide Netanyahu’s “backbone” against negotiations leading to a Palestinian terror state.

NEVERTHELESS, Lapid and Bennett definitely tapped into a rich lode of built-up animus towards the chareidi community. One poll during the first round of coalition negotiations showed that Lapid would win the largest number of mandates – 30 – with Netanyahu plunging to 22, if new elections were held. That means the Israeli public – at least in that one-time snapshot – was prepared to contemplate a prime minister with no military or political experience and no substantive expertise, and who did not complete his high school matriculation exams, at a time when the prime minister will be faced with perhaps the most difficult decision ever to face an Israeli prime minister – whether to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities – and have to deal with the possibility of Syria’s vast stores of chemical and biological weapons falling into the hands of Islamic jihadists or being transferred to Hizbullah. Yet somehow chareidi army service trumped those threats to our existence.

My second indication of how deep-seated the resentments run came when I sent a national religious colleague my piece in Mishpacha on the chareidi draft issue. I consider this woman to be Israel’s finest columnist. She always writes in a measured style, building her argument block by block, like the engineer she is by training. I was sure she would approve of my pragmatic argument for allowing processes well under way to develop.

I was wrong. Perhaps she would have agreed five years ago, she wrote, but now she was fed up and fully behind Bennett. Even a statement by Rav Aharon Leib Steinman, shlita, that army service represents a spiritual threat to chareidi recruits – an unassailable sociological fact in the current IDF environment – elicited paroxysms of anger. The evident frustration coming from someone normally so temperate and with a number of chareidi friends clued me in to the depth of feeling in the national religious world.

A third clue. A close friend was in Hadassah Hospital last week with his son. He mentioned to the nurse on duty that there was an overpowering stench in his son’s room coming from the other bed in the room. The nurse snapped at him, “That’s the problem with you people, all you do is take.” My friend, despite his Chassidic dress, happens to be the CEO of an international company and has served in high government posts. I do not know anyone who thinks more about being a Kiddush Hashem in all interactions with non-chareidim. There are always a number of non-religious and national religious Jews, with whom he has developed close relationships, at his smachot. In short, the nurse’s outburst was not provoked by his failure to speak nicely.

IN THE FACE OF SUCH ANIMOSITY, the easiest and most consoling response is to absolve ourselves of all responsibility and dismiss the hatred as that of an am ha’aretz for a talmid chacham or as yet another manifestation of the well-documented desire of the Zionist forefathers to fashion “new Jews” removed from Torah – a goal turned into policy by the Jewish Agency and the fledgling State in its treatment of religious immigrants from Arab lands.

The depth of the proposed cuts in government aid to poor chareidi families and the magnitude of the transformation they seek to effect are more punitive than rational social policy. Families of convicted terrorists, MK Moshe Gafni claimed, will be entitled to social benefits while families of poor avreichim will be denied on the grounds that they are not actively seeking employment. Nor is it possible to justify the decision to cut off all subsidies for foreign students studying at Mir Yeshiva but not for those studying at “Zionist” Kerem B’Yavneh and Shalavim.

Nevertheless, it is worth asking whether there is anything we can do going forward to lessen the hatred. Have we sufficiently shown the secular public that even if few chareidi parents are spending sleepless nights worried about their own children on the front lines that we are deeply concerned with the fate of every Jewish soldier? Have we as a community internalized the sensitivity to the feelings of our fellow Jews of Rabbi Chaim Shmuelewitz, who refused to let Mirrer bochurim spend more than the briefest time outside of the beis medrash during the Yom Kippur War, even to look for the dalet minim, in order that no mother of a soldier at the front see yeshiva bochurim looking as if they did not have a care in the world? Did we sufficiently listen to the secular public and try to understand why the slogan “equality of burdens” has such emotional power – the first step in any dialogue? Or did we make things too easy for ourselves by dismissing every complaint as nothing but “hatred of Torah”?

It should hurt us the secular public knows that most chareidi shuls do not recite a special prayer for the safety of soldiers, but nothing of the numerous chareidi chesed organizations, such as Yad Sarah and Ezer M’Tzion, serving the entire population.

THE CHAREIDI PUBLIC is in pain and dread of what lies ahead. But nothing will be gained at this moment by name-calling and giving vent to our own anger. Threats of revenge do not dignify us nor will they avail.

If there is any silver lining in the present situation, it is that the decline in chareidi political power affords new opportunities to meet our fellow Jews on the individual level. Their hatred is not primarily for Torah Jews as individuals, but for the corporate chareidi enterprise represented in the Knesset. Now that we no longer threaten them, they may be more open them to getting behind the stereotypes that fuel the animus. On a one-to-one basis, we can show them what Torah means to us, what we are prepared to sacrifice for it, and what it might mean for them as well.

Every interaction with a non-chareidi Jew is an opportunity to change pre-conceptions, and we should seek out those opportunities. The chavrusa programs of Kesher Yehudi and Ayelet HaShachar are one such opportunity.

Over the last decade, the Karlin-Stolin community, led by the Rebbe himself, has hosted between 10-15,000 Jews in small groups for Shabbos meals. Last week, one of the Torah flyers distributed in national religious synagogues on leil Shabbos included a letter from a waiter at Shabbos gathering of 370 Karlin-Stolin chassidim. He wrote of the warmth and respect the chassidim showed him, of how they saved a seat for him at the table and invited him to join them in their dancing, of how they washed so neatly so as to minimize the clean-up.

“Shabbos ended and so did all my stereotypes,” the waiter wrote. So moved was the waiter that he called the Rebbe himself, who cried with joy and exclaimed, “That’s how I educated them for decades — in ahavas Yisrael and mutual respect.”

An example worth emulating.

This article first appeared in Mishpacha.

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Simcha Younger
2 years 7 months ago

I agree with the other commentors here who said that generally hatred is the wrong word. Resentment or distrust work better, Regardless, since the Chareidim are a clearly distinct community, acting as a closed group, the sociological default is distrust. The Chareidi community (as any similar community, and as the Jewish community in America) must actively work on building trust. The Chareidi education should have taught how to relate to the DL and non-religious communities in a respectful manner, and how to understand how they look at the Charedi community. This did not happen, and too many people in the… Read more »

2 years 7 months ago

Yehuda you write a very thorough and debatable support of the charedi position. Two notes –

“Nonetheless, the problem is deep-rooted, because fundamentally, many haredim do not want to support the state in any way (although they are forced to do so when paying VAT and other taxes etc)”

Then why take all the tax benefits etc. and not go the way of Satmar?

“the level of learning in the US yeshivos is below that of those here. Perhaps because of the “much vaunted” secular education that those in the US are forced to waste their time on?”

More likely because of… Read more »

2 years 7 months ago

“….refused to let Mirrer bochurim spend more than the briefest time outside of the beis medrash during the Yom Kippur War”

If we have to go that far back, before most of our current avreichim were even born, no – we haven’t internalized it.

Also Netanyahu made a 3rd mistake in his elections – the ad campaigns spewed hatred for the religious. He primed his own constituency to be ready to let go of a coalition with the charedi parties. And oddly Shas and Gimmel turned their strong election language not back at Likud, but against Bennett (while Bennett had… Read more »

2 years 7 months ago

“Personally, as a graduate of Cambridge U in England, i can assure you that the vast majority of my many years of secular education were a total timewaster. The main ingredient in a successful chinuch system in my humble opinion is a critical mind, which is totally discouraged in almost all circles of academia. Of course Gemara learning is based precisely on criticism and understanding, not rote learning of useless facts.

Well, Cantab at least taught you how to write angrily!
Some of the greatest thinkers in the Orthodox world, both male and female are Cambridge graduates who fully embraced and integrated… Read more »

L. Oberstein
2 years 7 months ago

I think that change is coming. Before the election, Mishpacha editorials criticized the charedi politicians and Jonathan has done so numerous times in the past. Now, the election is over. Is there any movement at all to replace the failed askanim with new ones? Is it heresy to ask if the Venerable Eldes of the community are getting the whole story and if they chose their spokesmen or the other way around. A lot depends on changes on the ground. If indeed Rav Stav is elected Chief Rabbi and cleans up the Rabbanut, makes it user friendly and establishes… Read more »

2 years 7 months ago

Yehuda, as has been stated before by many, Nachal charedi members are not really charedi (they are mostly people from the DL world who want a completely separate environment). Most of them have studied the core curriculum. I know of at least 2 people that went into NC- neither voted for either UTJ or Shas – both voted Bayit Yehudi.

2 years 7 months ago

you know that “miraculous period in which the secular Israeli government became the prime supporter of Torah learning on a scale unprecedented in Jewish history”?

Well, there’s a special day coming up in which it might be possible for you to express some hakaras hatov for that, for once.

Let the charedi world celebrate yom ha’atzmaut or, heck, even acknowledge yom hazikaron.

2 years 7 months ago

“I think DL must be quite miffed that the vast majority of baalei teshuvah enter the haredi, not the DL world. Why would they do so, if the haredim are really so hating/condescending?”

They would be more miffed if this were true. But it isn’t.

2 years 7 months ago

As an FFB working guy here in Israel (an Oleh 13 years ago), I (& almost all my friends) have zero hatred for Chilonim. Whenever we have a chance we do our best to connect with them, in fact we actually feel some love & connection towards them.
I work with many secular men & women mainly by phone and email however we do meet from time to time and Iv’e realized that in almost all cases they are so shocked when they meet me, they say “what?? you are charedi?? but you are normal!!!”. (I am sometimes shocked at… Read more »

2 years 7 months ago

– an unassailable sociological fact in the current IDF environment” are most offensive to the DL community, who somehow manage to serve without compromising their orthodoxy or emuna. (I don’t have statistics, or even know if such statistics exist, but from my sons and son-in-law tell me, the incidence of DL kids leaving orthodoxy during or as a result of army service is very, very low).

—— in fairness to the haredi community, this is one claim they make that is most likely true —the DL dropout rate is hi enough that pre-army mechinot were tried to… Read more »

2 years 7 months ago

Lifelong kollel for the masses was a radical historical innovation that was meant to last just a generation, not for all time. But people get used to the status go. So if the gedolim won’t move people back toward Chazal’s preferred Avos 2:2 lifestyle of Torah combined with work, then maybe Hashem has sent a secular/dati-leumi government to do it for them. Privately, I understand that many charedim are saying that the changes will be hard but in the end they will benefit everyone. After all, Chazal said that one who is good in the eyes of his fellows is… Read more »

2 years 7 months ago

Historically speaking, the hatred started in the non-religious camp. They were the ones who showed up in Eretz Yisrael and tried to wipe out the Old Yishuv (and they haven’t given up trying).
It would be very nice to get an apology for the terrible way the irreligious zionists treated the haredim when they turned up here. Remember De Haan, anyone?
And speaking of De Haan, haredim were managing okay coexisting with the Arabs till the Zionists messed it all up with their demand for a state. The security situation before all that was much better than that of today, despite… Read more »

2 years 7 months ago

It’s not hatred- more a frustration that an important relationship (between chareidim and the rest of Israeli society) is becoming more and more skewed, and any attempt to restore a little normalcy is met with “you hate us”. If every proposed change is called a gezerat shmad, this leads non-chareidim to assume that any sort of negotiated, gradual, win/win plan is impossible, and to therefore seek maximalist, imposed approaches.
I also think that the issue of chareidi army service is an expecially sensitive one for those in the Dati-leumi community. Several examples:
1-The preferred chareidi division of labor seems to be “we’ll… Read more »

Menachem Lipkin
2 years 7 months ago

I’m surprised that Jonathan has fallen into the false “hatred” trap. While it’s true, I’m sure, that some minority non-Chareidim do actually hate Chareidim (just as the converse, as evidenced by the vile statements regularly tossed out by the media and leadership, is likely true) much of the Chareidi media and leadership have speciously turned legitimate criticism into “hatred”. The advantages of doing so are clear. It helps rally the flocks, it maintains the lines of distinction that the leadership work so tirelessly to enforce, and it shuts down constructive discussion which might threaten the coveted “status quo”. One need… Read more »

Moishe Potemkin
2 years 7 months ago

I think the assumption that non-Chareidim *hate* Chareidim (rather than understandably resenting the propensity to take without sincere appreciation) is itself inflammatory.

Dr. E
2 years 7 months ago

Also, it would seem that in previous generations in s Europe, if it were not for issues of Kashrus or Shabbos, there would be no such fundamental objections to service in the Czar’s army.

2 years 7 months ago

final point. for too long the DL Mizrachi million has had the worst of both worlds. hilonim can disparage them as religious. but more importantly , haredim have vilified and denigrated them as worse than hilonim- in the way that originally the aguda’s Jewish Observer used to go after non-O as the threat to Judaism , but later concentrated on the Falsehood that is modern O. like this week’s parsha’s where 4 species are singled out by name for the disgusting trait of having a single kosher sign, the pseudo-kosher… Read more »

2 years 7 months ago

one more point . the last time in jewish history so many learned tora on another’s expense was in the midbar. the bill was covered by the Rosh Yeshiva —who provided Manna, clothes, housing ,security— no questions asked. now imagine if instead , the leader of that community rabbi m amranson sent out letters to the other regional neighbors , let’s say estranged off-the-derech cousins , Moav , Ammon , and Eisav , and sent a list of demands: provide for our food, housing, child… Read more »

2 years 7 months ago

with respect to ben dov , yissachar did not put a gun to zevulun’s head, threaten to collapse zevulun’s government, threaten to give back territory to zevulun’s enemies [ not yissachar’s–they have divine protection ] if zevulun doesnt send a check; yissachar didnt laugh at zevulun for being a Frier/fool for working and not taking a dole from zevulun’s brother, yissachar didnt try to convert zevulun and disparage his lifestyle ,his tora leaders , his institutions , holidays etc …i could go on and on ….

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2 years 7 months ago

“Have we sufficiently shown the secular public that even if few chareidi parents are spending sleepless nights worried about their own children on the front lines that we are deeply concerned with the fate of every Jewish soldier?” A thought experiment might be helpful here.

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Charlie Hall
2 years 7 months ago

“traditional alliance between Likud and the chareidi parties”

I don’t get this. Chareidi parties have traditionally been willing to ally with anyone who offers them money and power. They supported governments of Ben-Gurion, Rabin, Barak, and Olmert that excluded Likud.

2 years 7 months ago

In any post on this (or related subjects) on this website, the majority of responders are against the charedi position. Now this website is read and commented upon predominantly by products of the black-hat yeshivah world. In more modern parts of the orthdoox world, the oposition would be even higher. If even (at least!) half of religious Jews dont approve of the charedi lifestyle, can you even imagine what other Jews – the majority of our brothers, in other words – think??

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Harry Maryles
2 years 7 months ago

If you look at what R’ Dovid Soloveitchik said in last week’s Ami interview… you will understand why Jonathan’s lament won’t ‘play in Peoria (Read: Bnei Brak)’. And R’ Dovid is not alone in that kind of rhetoric.

I agree with Jonathan’s ‘Pogo’ analysis. But unless you get people like R’ Dovid to stop the ‘Shas HaShamd’ rhetoric this entire article is a waste of breath. My gut feeling is that Jonathan is ‘preaching to the choir’. Most Charedim probably agree with him, privately. But he is not one of their rabbinic leaders. Thus not anyone whose advice they should follow.… Read more »

2 years 7 months ago

I think we could start lessening the tension by demonstrating that we mean what we say. For example, if Torah learning is so important, then all yeshivos — including the DL ones! — should start doing away with that extra week of “bein hazmanim” after Pesach and Sukkos. That would be a statement that would be noticed and would resonate.

I’m surprised that, given today’s political atmosphere, no Torah leader I know of thought to do that this year.

Dr. E
2 years 7 months ago

Jonathan seems to be deflecting the core issue(s) on two counts. First, that it is largely a Chareidi PR problem requiring tikkun (and that Kesher Yehudi and Ayelet HaShachar are the antedote). Second, that this is merely the result of political missteps by the Chareidi community that resulted in this perfect storm. While that might play well in Mishpacha, I presume that in this more connected-to-facts-on-the-ground CC forum, those theses will not resonate. Many of us are keenly aware of the seemingly entitled Chareidi community in Israel, that despite its contributions to Torah, have been taklers… Read more »

Eli in USA
2 years 7 months ago

Rabbi Rosenblum:

In all fairness, the Karlin-Stolin Rebbe (from Givat Zev?) is an American, and is not as “extreme” as the “real” Israeli Charaidim. He is more (politically) like yourself.

As far as reducing the hatred, it is very possible that the secular would have left the Charaidim alone if not for all of the clashes and coercion CAUSED by the charaidim. Bais Shemesh as a battleground, not allowing (TZNIUS!) pictures of women on busses in Yerushalaim and the consistant takeover of neighborhoods and communities (I know, Charaidim need “Lebensraum”) that were formerly tolerent has gotten the rest of the country to… Read more »

2 years 7 months ago

But Mr. Rosenblum, despite your claims of building up arguments, I don’t see anything in this article that compels me to accept your POV that this issue is not the hatred of the Am Ha’Aretz or the hatred of the New Jew for the old. You make an assertion with much confidence but not much reason. I would seriously like someone to change my mind, but I cannot find any basis to do so.

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Bob Miller
2 years 7 months ago

I’d like to hear, straight and direct (no go-betweens/interpreters/PR men), directly from the community leaders on all sides of this issue, exactly how they would solve the problem of enmity. That is, solve, not fuss about.

Ori Pomerantz
2 years 7 months ago

Now that we no longer threaten them, they may be more open them to getting behind the stereotypes that fuel the animus.

I think this is the big elephant in the room. IIRC, Charedim make up 10% of the Israeli population – but 25% of first graders. Within a generation, Charedim might be the majority.

Would secular Israelis be able to enjoy their current lifestyle under a Charedi-majority Knesset? Or would such a Knesset pass laws forbidding the public desecration of Shabbat, selling of non-Kosher meat, etc.? Judaism is a communal religion, and enforcing Halacha is part of it.

2 years 7 months ago

“Can We Do Anything to Lessen the Hatred?”

Yes – you can have the charedi leadership formulate a clear, cogent, compelling explanation for why they should not have to serve in the IDF, and why the rest of the country should have to pay to allow every able-bodied charedi man who wishes to learn full-time to do so. I have seen no such explanation. Only a lot of anger and invective.

“army service represents a spiritual threat to chareidi recruits – an unassailable sociological fact in the current IDF environment”

This is very, very far from “an unassailable sociological fact.” … Read more »

Avidan Dehan
2 years 7 months ago

“Gimel’s campaign this year was an insult to the yeshivos hesder, Merkaz haRav, and every other talmid chakham who served.”

The campaign was also an insult to Euclid and to the Vilna Gaon :-)

No, these are not examples of poor PR that don’t properly reflect the populace. Rather, these are reflections of the actual values held by that populace.

“an unassailable sociological fact in the current IDF environment” – What an incredibly spoiled outlook. Spoiled and petty! And coming from an English-speaking immigrant who should know much better!

The fact is that it is far easier to be a Torah Jew in the… Read more »

Ben Waxman
2 years 7 months ago


If people want to invite the secular over for Shabbat in order to try and convince them that Chareidim aren’t so bad (and therefore the draft deferment should be continued), than chaval al hatzman. I understand that with kashrut and Shabbat restrictions there are limited forums in which meetings like this can be held. But why is the goal to convince the secular? Why not have as a goal getting to know people as people? Maybe a goal could be to erase misconceptions on our part. There is no one way street here.

Same with the dati leumim. As was pointed… Read more »

Kevin in Chicago
2 years 7 months ago

R’ Adlerstein wrote in the last Cross Currents, “As one major Torah figure said (privately, of course), ‘After decades of treating them [secular Jews]like garbage, we should be surprised when they want to treat us the same way?’” It appears the Israeli Chareidi world has finally understood the kernel of Torah the pagan learned from Hillel while standing on one foot.

2 years 7 months ago

Once again, R. Rosenblum laments the absence of Charedi soul-searching about their ineffective PR, with almost no request that the soul-searching be directed at the issues themselves.

It didn’t quite trump these threats. Israelis knew Netanyahu would be the PM regardless of how they voted. But it sure was important to many people.

The paroxyms of anger were probably because instead of having an open conversation with the Israeli public and the IDF about the environment in the IDF can be improved, the Charedim just use the argument (which is actually quite assailable, but let’s ignore that for now) to… Read more »

ben dov
2 years 7 months ago

Yasher Koach for an excellent article. As much as I am opposed to coercing yeshiva students with drafts and fines, I do think the charedi community had it coming. A Yisachar-Zevulun relationship works best when learners shows love and respect for those who support them. For decades charedi yeshiva students were generously given money and relieved of army service. Even if it came about through political bargaining, it happened, and warrants gratitude. The Israeli public, for all its flaws, has been like a father-in-law to every avrech, and is hungry for recognition. I… Read more »

L. Oberstein
2 years 7 months ago

I find Jonathan Rosenblum right on the mark and wish that Israelis cared one whit what American olim think. He writes with balance on this issue but when I read what the Charedi Knesset members say and hear second hand some statements coming from the Elders of the Community, I wonder if there is a desire to compromise, to makes necessary changes to accept Nachal Chareidi as a norm,to allow boys to serve and then get a job and still find a shiduch. I do not understand a society that on the one hand doesn’t provide the ability for… Read more »

Chaim Saiman
2 years 7 months ago

Much to react to here but Ill start at the beginning. Why is it that during the 50+ years that the “the secular Israeli government became the prime supporter of Torah learning on a scale unprecedented in Jewish history,” did we not here more (any?) hakaras hatov for this very fact?

2 years 7 months ago

You said that the benei Torah from this woman’s community were unable to stay that way because of the army, and you wonder why she got angry? Gimel’s campaign this year was an insult to the yeshivos hesder, Merkaz haRav, and every other talmid chakham who served.

Yehudah Katz received his call up orders to Lebanon in the beis medrash. They knew in the office where to go, because everyone in KBY knew there was only one place you could find him. Yehudah left his chavruasah and went north. And there was the Battle pf Sultan Yacoub, and he’s been MIA… Read more »

dr. bill
2 years 7 months ago

you write: “Their hatred is not primarily for Torah Jews as individuals, but for the corporate chareidi enterprise represented in the Knesset.” How about the fact that these individuals claim to represent the chareidi gedolim. the day chareidi gedolim criticize their politicians, perhaps people will take notice. addressing bennett and lapid rationally and without venom will help. acts of individual kindness are beautiful and much appreciated. unfortunately such good efforts are upended by one venomous outburst, particularly by a chareidi leader.

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