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		<title>By: Gad Frenkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gad Frenkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; but the image of the South was that it was dangerous to be a Jew. I never felt it.&quot; Comment by L. Oberstein 

I don&#039;t know what Disneyland my esteemed Lantsman L. Oberstein grew up in, but he surely must remember the Shul in Montgomery that was bombed.  I know that I remember, as a 5-year old, my older brother coming home early from Hebrew School one afternoon because of the bomb found outside of our Shul.  Not to mention the ever presnt Ku Klux Klan who hated Jews almost as much as they hated Blacks.  But perhaps I only noticed these things because of the &quot;pathology&quot; of my &quot;trauma as (a) second generation survivor&quot;.

Gad Frenkel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; but the image of the South was that it was dangerous to be a Jew. I never felt it.&#8221; Comment by L. Oberstein </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what Disneyland my esteemed Lantsman L. Oberstein grew up in, but he surely must remember the Shul in Montgomery that was bombed.  I know that I remember, as a 5-year old, my older brother coming home early from Hebrew School one afternoon because of the bomb found outside of our Shul.  Not to mention the ever presnt Ku Klux Klan who hated Jews almost as much as they hated Blacks.  But perhaps I only noticed these things because of the &#8220;pathology&#8221; of my &#8220;trauma as (a) second generation survivor&#8221;.</p>
<p>Gad Frenkel</p>
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		<title>By: L. Oberstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>L. Oberstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16 invokes Auschwitz.Does he imply that all goyim are Nazis, that any remark , insensitive or even prejudicial is just a stop away from genocide. Perhaps, the opposite is true.see # 17 which is insightful.&quot;Those who are hurt in a particular way are vulnerable &quot;. The generation of Holocaust survivers is getting older and passing away, but maybe their children have been wounded by growing up with that trauma as second generation survivors. Perhaps the solution is therapy , not lashing out at others who don&#039;t share this pathology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16 invokes Auschwitz.Does he imply that all goyim are Nazis, that any remark , insensitive or even prejudicial is just a stop away from genocide. Perhaps, the opposite is true.see # 17 which is insightful.&#8221;Those who are hurt in a particular way are vulnerable &#8220;. The generation of Holocaust survivers is getting older and passing away, but maybe their children have been wounded by growing up with that trauma as second generation survivors. Perhaps the solution is therapy , not lashing out at others who don&#8217;t share this pathology.</p>
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		<title>By: One Christian's perspective</title>
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		<dc:creator>One Christian's perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Passover Seder is a beautiful experience of God grace toward His people enslaved in Egypt and the fulfillment of a promise He gave to Abraham.  I hope I have not offended anyone by sharing my experience.  I realize my experience was a bit different that one shared by so many kinsmen of those ancient Hebrews and even modern ones today. I couldn&#039;t share the Seder as you would...but....I could relate to the pain, suffering and deliverance.  It was a priviledge and honor to be part of this sacred feast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Passover Seder is a beautiful experience of God grace toward His people enslaved in Egypt and the fulfillment of a promise He gave to Abraham.  I hope I have not offended anyone by sharing my experience.  I realize my experience was a bit different that one shared by so many kinsmen of those ancient Hebrews and even modern ones today. I couldn&#8217;t share the Seder as you would&#8230;but&#8230;.I could relate to the pain, suffering and deliverance.  It was a priviledge and honor to be part of this sacred feast.</p>
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		<title>By: AmusedMemphian</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmusedMemphian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gil - you only moved to Memphis recently, how would you know what Memphis was like 40 years ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gil &#8211; you only moved to Memphis recently, how would you know what Memphis was like 40 years ago?</p>
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		<title>By: One Christian's perspective</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2009/10/30/a-worthy-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-380296</link>
		<dc:creator>One Christian's perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I find that many people are thin skinned and see anti-semitism, racism, etc. when it is not intended. The answer to that is that ,you may not realize you are a racist,but deep down , you are and this shows it. That is the way the victim looks at it. It comes from their own insecurity or lack of self esteem.&quot; - Comment by L. Oberstein 

From my own experience, I believe it also comes from the pain of deep wounds and hurts that have not yet healed and continue to throb and distort our perceptions ..... until God changes it.  For me, forgiveness was the beginning of sanity and through that long and painful process, I realized broken people - those who carry their own unconfessed sin and the sin of others upon them - hurt other people. Those who are hurt in a particular way are vulnerable and more sensitive to a repeat performance.  Triggers remind us of that hurt just as if it just happened.  Those who hurt are those who have been hurt - a perverse way of creating other images of their pain. The story of Joseph was for me a beautiful picture of my journey from betrayal to wholeness. Years later, a Passover seder revealed to me in a night of revelation and awe that a victim only comes out of their suffering when God comes down, becomes an active player and redeems and delivers them according to his plan.  God&#039;s healing brings us back to being human created in His image with His ability to forgive and love those who hurt us.  Forgiveness removes the pain and the stain/picture loses its power to hurt.  Hurt people are not far from God&#039;s mercy and grace and His willingness to heal them.....if and when we are willing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I find that many people are thin skinned and see anti-semitism, racism, etc. when it is not intended. The answer to that is that ,you may not realize you are a racist,but deep down , you are and this shows it. That is the way the victim looks at it. It comes from their own insecurity or lack of self esteem.&#8221; &#8211; Comment by L. Oberstein </p>
<p>From my own experience, I believe it also comes from the pain of deep wounds and hurts that have not yet healed and continue to throb and distort our perceptions &#8230;.. until God changes it.  For me, forgiveness was the beginning of sanity and through that long and painful process, I realized broken people &#8211; those who carry their own unconfessed sin and the sin of others upon them &#8211; hurt other people. Those who are hurt in a particular way are vulnerable and more sensitive to a repeat performance.  Triggers remind us of that hurt just as if it just happened.  Those who hurt are those who have been hurt &#8211; a perverse way of creating other images of their pain. The story of Joseph was for me a beautiful picture of my journey from betrayal to wholeness. Years later, a Passover seder revealed to me in a night of revelation and awe that a victim only comes out of their suffering when God comes down, becomes an active player and redeems and delivers them according to his plan.  God&#8217;s healing brings us back to being human created in His image with His ability to forgive and love those who hurt us.  Forgiveness removes the pain and the stain/picture loses its power to hurt.  Hurt people are not far from God&#8217;s mercy and grace and His willingness to heal them&#8230;..if and when we are willing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewish Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jewish Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I find that many people are thin skinned and see anti-semitism, racism, etc. when it is not intended&quot;

- I am amazed that we can make this sort of statement so soon after Auschwitz. I can;t imagine a children of survivors or gradchildren of non-survivors could ever say this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I find that many people are thin skinned and see anti-semitism, racism, etc. when it is not intended&#8221;</p>
<p>- I am amazed that we can make this sort of statement so soon after Auschwitz. I can;t imagine a children of survivors or gradchildren of non-survivors could ever say this</p>
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		<title>By: Pinchas Giller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinchas Giller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a southern Jew, I must agree with Gil and admonish Rabbi Shafran for some short-sightedness.  The remark by the chairmen was the tip of an iceberg of animosity and anti-semitism. I knew it in my childhood and was shocked to see it recur, so mindlessly, in this context. The ADL was correct to be as vigilant as it was. They look out for the interests of all Jews, not merely those cocooned in safe urban cloisters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a southern Jew, I must agree with Gil and admonish Rabbi Shafran for some short-sightedness.  The remark by the chairmen was the tip of an iceberg of animosity and anti-semitism. I knew it in my childhood and was shocked to see it recur, so mindlessly, in this context. The ADL was correct to be as vigilant as it was. They look out for the interests of all Jews, not merely those cocooned in safe urban cloisters.</p>
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		<title>By: Gil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me wrong; I believe that after the apology, it is important to let the matter drop.  That doesn&#039;t mean that the ADL should not have initially responded strongly.

Montgomery has a lovely Jewish community.  There is a great difference between very small towns in the South (and I think elsewhere) and larger cities.  I have had the curse, and blessing, of experiencing both.

Clarksdale, MS, in the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s, at the height of the Civil Rights movement, which had heavy Jewish involvement, was hell on earth; that is, unless you were like most of the Jews who saw nothing wrong with belonging to the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, and tried to assimilate as much as possible.  The local reform Rabbi was even involved with the John Birch Society, which always associated Jews with various communist conspiracy theories.

Memphis, TN, 76 miles north,was the exact opposite.  There was, and is, a strong Jewish community.  We had the largest Orthodox synagogue in the US.  All types of Jews would attend the 3, later 2, synagogues.  Some were completely frum; some were no different than reform in observance.  Everybody got along.

The 10,000 Jews were so tight, and there was such a sense of community, that Jews really didn&#039;t socialize with non-Jews that much.

I would strongly suspect that the 2 politicians that misspoke came from the 1st type of community.

It&#039;s not always possible, for a variety of reasons, for people to pick up and move to a larger community.  And, I can assure you, bad words can lead to even worse physical abuse.

Sometimes Jews, like Rabbi Shafran and my neighbors in NY and NJ, need to understand that there are still Jews who do not live in large population centers.  A little rachmanut, and some understanding, might provide more encouragement for these people to stay Jewish, rather than to run away to avoid the scorn of the majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong; I believe that after the apology, it is important to let the matter drop.  That doesn&#8217;t mean that the ADL should not have initially responded strongly.</p>
<p>Montgomery has a lovely Jewish community.  There is a great difference between very small towns in the South (and I think elsewhere) and larger cities.  I have had the curse, and blessing, of experiencing both.</p>
<p>Clarksdale, MS, in the 60&#8217;s and 70&#8217;s, at the height of the Civil Rights movement, which had heavy Jewish involvement, was hell on earth; that is, unless you were like most of the Jews who saw nothing wrong with belonging to the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, and tried to assimilate as much as possible.  The local reform Rabbi was even involved with the John Birch Society, which always associated Jews with various communist conspiracy theories.</p>
<p>Memphis, TN, 76 miles north,was the exact opposite.  There was, and is, a strong Jewish community.  We had the largest Orthodox synagogue in the US.  All types of Jews would attend the 3, later 2, synagogues.  Some were completely frum; some were no different than reform in observance.  Everybody got along.</p>
<p>The 10,000 Jews were so tight, and there was such a sense of community, that Jews really didn&#8217;t socialize with non-Jews that much.</p>
<p>I would strongly suspect that the 2 politicians that misspoke came from the 1st type of community.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not always possible, for a variety of reasons, for people to pick up and move to a larger community.  And, I can assure you, bad words can lead to even worse physical abuse.</p>
<p>Sometimes Jews, like Rabbi Shafran and my neighbors in NY and NJ, need to understand that there are still Jews who do not live in large population centers.  A little rachmanut, and some understanding, might provide more encouragement for these people to stay Jewish, rather than to run away to avoid the scorn of the majority.</p>
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		<title>By: One Christian's perspective</title>
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		<dc:creator>One Christian's perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No simple kindness, no word of encouragement or comfort, no few seconds of patience, is without worth. All, in fact, can be diamonds.&quot; 
- Avi Shafran

Rabbi Shafran, there is such wisdom in your choice of words.  How we react to harsh words and deeds can make a situation better or worse but your words: kindness, encouragement, comfort, patience speaks of love not revenge.  In studying Genesis this year, my Bible Study group just this week read of Abram rescuing Lot.  I saw that Abram was a righteous man and a wealthy man - attributed to God&#039;s blessing.  When I read that his neighbors, the Amorites, were allied with him , I pondered what did Abram say and do to them that would promote such loyalty. 

I believe you answered my question.  Abram had to have been a blessing to them.  He gave out of his heart, &quot;diamonds&quot; to his neighbors ...... over and over and over again.  

Initially, on first reading your article, I thought you were being far too kind.  Yet, when I got to the end of the article and read your next to last lines, I remembered  Abram.  On reflection about my initial thoughts, I realized that I thought as I did because too often , my choice of response to hurtful things is to offer shards of glass when I could have offered showers of diamonds.  

Thank you for being Abram to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No simple kindness, no word of encouragement or comfort, no few seconds of patience, is without worth. All, in fact, can be diamonds.&#8221;<br />
- Avi Shafran</p>
<p>Rabbi Shafran, there is such wisdom in your choice of words.  How we react to harsh words and deeds can make a situation better or worse but your words: kindness, encouragement, comfort, patience speaks of love not revenge.  In studying Genesis this year, my Bible Study group just this week read of Abram rescuing Lot.  I saw that Abram was a righteous man and a wealthy man &#8211; attributed to God&#8217;s blessing.  When I read that his neighbors, the Amorites, were allied with him , I pondered what did Abram say and do to them that would promote such loyalty. </p>
<p>I believe you answered my question.  Abram had to have been a blessing to them.  He gave out of his heart, &#8220;diamonds&#8221; to his neighbors &#8230;&#8230; over and over and over again.  </p>
<p>Initially, on first reading your article, I thought you were being far too kind.  Yet, when I got to the end of the article and read your next to last lines, I remembered  Abram.  On reflection about my initial thoughts, I realized that I thought as I did because too often , my choice of response to hurtful things is to offer shards of glass when I could have offered showers of diamonds.  </p>
<p>Thank you for being Abram to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A clerk at an auto parts store used the expression &quot;Jew &#039;em down&quot; in front of me. I told him that I was Jewish, and started to walk out. He apologized profusely, explaining that it was just an expression he heard growing up, and he really meant nothing by it. It went on and on, and I could tell he was truly remorseful. I said to him, &quot;Listen, I&#039;ll give you ten dollars to forget the whole thing. No, make that nine. No, eight.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A clerk at an auto parts store used the expression &#8220;Jew &#8216;em down&#8221; in front of me. I told him that I was Jewish, and started to walk out. He apologized profusely, explaining that it was just an expression he heard growing up, and he really meant nothing by it. It went on and on, and I could tell he was truly remorseful. I said to him, &#8220;Listen, I&#8217;ll give you ten dollars to forget the whole thing. No, make that nine. No, eight.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Miriam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miriam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gil: &lt;i&gt;Maybe if you had grown up in a small town in the South having pennies thrown near you with people making remarks about cheap Jews...&lt;/i&gt;

Chicago: &lt;i&gt;To contemplate that the politicians who made the comment were being complementary is a display of naivette.&lt;/i&gt;

I think you&#039;re both onto something.

But after the public apology, I think it&#039;s time to accept.

I once heard that&#039;s the meaning in &quot;gam Charvona zachur latov&quot; (Charvona should be remembered for good, the last line in a prayer on Purim).  Charvona was originally on Haman&#039;s side, yet he spoke up to offer Haman&#039;s gallows when Achashverosh had turned against Haman.  So we accept his change of heart, however self-serving.

Because if we never accept the apologies, they&#039;ll just stop apologizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gil: <i>Maybe if you had grown up in a small town in the South having pennies thrown near you with people making remarks about cheap Jews&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Chicago: <i>To contemplate that the politicians who made the comment were being complementary is a display of naivette.</i></p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re both onto something.</p>
<p>But after the public apology, I think it&#8217;s time to accept.</p>
<p>I once heard that&#8217;s the meaning in &#8220;gam Charvona zachur latov&#8221; (Charvona should be remembered for good, the last line in a prayer on Purim).  Charvona was originally on Haman&#8217;s side, yet he spoke up to offer Haman&#8217;s gallows when Achashverosh had turned against Haman.  So we accept his change of heart, however self-serving.</p>
<p>Because if we never accept the apologies, they&#8217;ll just stop apologizing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chicago, would you say that &lt;b&gt;any&lt;/b&gt; comment about Jews made by gentiles is a trial balloon by antisemites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chicago, would you say that <b>any</b> comment about Jews made by gentiles is a trial balloon by antisemites?</p>
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		<title>By: L. Oberstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>L. Oberstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gil, what town did you grow up in? I come from Montgomery,Alabama and you can&#039;t get more South than that. There were periods of greater anti semitism when kids in my Junior High started making stupid comments like &quot;that is very Jewy&quot; whatever that means. I never understand why, all of a sudden, it appeared. But, no one ever bothered me personally, it was just talk. Maybe it had to do with the Northern Jews who came in and agitated and then left town in a hurry. The Deep South was very much under attack and that causes this type of reaction. I don&#039;t think that the White Citizens Council denied Jews membership. We lived in harmony and got along with blacks and whites, but the image of the South was that it was dangerous to be a Jew. I never felt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gil, what town did you grow up in? I come from Montgomery,Alabama and you can&#8217;t get more South than that. There were periods of greater anti semitism when kids in my Junior High started making stupid comments like &#8220;that is very Jewy&#8221; whatever that means. I never understand why, all of a sudden, it appeared. But, no one ever bothered me personally, it was just talk. Maybe it had to do with the Northern Jews who came in and agitated and then left town in a hurry. The Deep South was very much under attack and that causes this type of reaction. I don&#8217;t think that the White Citizens Council denied Jews membership. We lived in harmony and got along with blacks and whites, but the image of the South was that it was dangerous to be a Jew. I never felt it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a public relations director, the author is trying to find a silver lining and a lesson to learn.

The ADL works day and night to prevent Anti-Semitic comments no matter how insignificant from continuing. They know full well that a small ssemingly innocuous comment is merely a trial balloon to see how far they can push the envelope. It is healthier for Anti-Semites to blog  or talk in McDonalds about Jews, than for them to express it in public. 

ADL is simply seeing the future and is reacting appropriately despite the pettiness of the issue. To contemplate that the politicians who made the comment were being complementary is a display of naivette.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a public relations director, the author is trying to find a silver lining and a lesson to learn.</p>
<p>The ADL works day and night to prevent Anti-Semitic comments no matter how insignificant from continuing. They know full well that a small ssemingly innocuous comment is merely a trial balloon to see how far they can push the envelope. It is healthier for Anti-Semites to blog  or talk in McDonalds about Jews, than for them to express it in public. </p>
<p>ADL is simply seeing the future and is reacting appropriately despite the pettiness of the issue. To contemplate that the politicians who made the comment were being complementary is a display of naivette.</p>
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		<title>By: L. Oberstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>L. Oberstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right when you write &quot;more puzzling, however – at least to me – was the umbrage-taking in the first place. Why is imparting fiscal responsibility to successful Jews offensive?&quot;
I find that many people are thin skinned and see anti-semitism, racism, etc. when it is not intended. The answer to that is that ,you may not realize you are a racist,but deep down , you are and this shows it. That is the way the victim looks at it. It comes from their own insecurity or lack of self esteem.
How about when Erdegon of Turkey exhorted his people to be more like the Jews and learn how to be prosperous, or something like that. Did he mean it as anti-semitism, he certainly didn&#039;t see it that way.But, since we have a beef with him at the moment, we did see it that way.
In the eyes of some all of us orthodox Jews are racists, homophobes, anti-women, anti pluralism, anti-everything else modern and worthwhile. I don&#039;t know if we can do anything about it but smile and move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right when you write &#8220;more puzzling, however – at least to me – was the umbrage-taking in the first place. Why is imparting fiscal responsibility to successful Jews offensive?&#8221;<br />
I find that many people are thin skinned and see anti-semitism, racism, etc. when it is not intended. The answer to that is that ,you may not realize you are a racist,but deep down , you are and this shows it. That is the way the victim looks at it. It comes from their own insecurity or lack of self esteem.<br />
How about when Erdegon of Turkey exhorted his people to be more like the Jews and learn how to be prosperous, or something like that. Did he mean it as anti-semitism, he certainly didn&#8217;t see it that way.But, since we have a beef with him at the moment, we did see it that way.<br />
In the eyes of some all of us orthodox Jews are racists, homophobes, anti-women, anti pluralism, anti-everything else modern and worthwhile. I don&#8217;t know if we can do anything about it but smile and move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Gil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe if you had grown up in a small town in the South having pennies thrown near you with people making remarks about cheap Jews, you would be more sensitive to people who have experienced this type of anti-Semitism directly.  As a child, I did not find anything funny about the often repeated &quot;joke,&quot; &quot;How come Jews have such big noses? Because air is free.&quot;  There was nothing more positive to this than having been repeatedly beaten up for killing Yoshke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe if you had grown up in a small town in the South having pennies thrown near you with people making remarks about cheap Jews, you would be more sensitive to people who have experienced this type of anti-Semitism directly.  As a child, I did not find anything funny about the often repeated &#8220;joke,&#8221; &#8220;How come Jews have such big noses? Because air is free.&#8221;  There was nothing more positive to this than having been repeatedly beaten up for killing Yoshke.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>South Carolina was the state that started the American Civil War.</description>
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		<title>By: Harry Maryles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Maryles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree completely with you.  And I do not see their comment in any way offensive in the first place. Like you - I see it as complimentary. 

I suppose all the fuss is about the inference of that comment that &#039;Jews are cheap&#039;. That is an old negative stereotype about us I suppose but I do not see their comment in any way meaning this. Nor do I think non Jews even think that anymore.

In fact their apology was unnecessary and - that they made it at all is due only to a hyper-sensitivity to political correctness. 

In my view this fellow from the ADL really ought to get a life. If this is the best they can come up with then I question the very existence of the ADL. 

As such I – for one - apologize to these two South Carolina Republican Party chairmen for being unfairly criticized in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely with you.  And I do not see their comment in any way offensive in the first place. Like you &#8211; I see it as complimentary. </p>
<p>I suppose all the fuss is about the inference of that comment that &#8216;Jews are cheap&#8217;. That is an old negative stereotype about us I suppose but I do not see their comment in any way meaning this. Nor do I think non Jews even think that anymore.</p>
<p>In fact their apology was unnecessary and &#8211; that they made it at all is due only to a hyper-sensitivity to political correctness. </p>
<p>In my view this fellow from the ADL really ought to get a life. If this is the best they can come up with then I question the very existence of the ADL. </p>
<p>As such I – for one &#8211; apologize to these two South Carolina Republican Party chairmen for being unfairly criticized in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Baruch Pelta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baruch Pelta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, I&#039;m very happy that R&#039; Shafran has spoken out against this.

Continually, we see people being accused of anti-semitic sentiments or expressions when clearly there&#039;s simply nothing there. It&#039;s very admirable that the ADL is so firmly committed to klal yisrael and is willing to take on prominent voices from all sides, but at a certain point, it starts to look like a witch hunt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, I&#8217;m very happy that R&#8217; Shafran has spoken out against this.</p>
<p>Continually, we see people being accused of anti-semitic sentiments or expressions when clearly there&#8217;s simply nothing there. It&#8217;s very admirable that the ADL is so firmly committed to klal yisrael and is willing to take on prominent voices from all sides, but at a certain point, it starts to look like a witch hunt</p>
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		<title>By: Ori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems the ADF is in the business of finding antisemitism, so they&#039;ll look for it anywhere except in their political allies. When they can&#039;t find real antisemitism, they find stereotypes and pretend they&#039;re antisemitic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the ADF is in the business of finding antisemitism, so they&#8217;ll look for it anywhere except in their political allies. When they can&#8217;t find real antisemitism, they find stereotypes and pretend they&#8217;re antisemitic.</p>
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		<title>By: tzippi</title>
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		<dc:creator>tzippi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading your last paragraph, would that people think in such terms. I would think that this knee-jerk reaction is due to Shakespeare more than the current climate, and shades of Shylock. To people thinking that way, any such statement constitutes fightin&#039; words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading your last paragraph, would that people think in such terms. I would think that this knee-jerk reaction is due to Shakespeare more than the current climate, and shades of Shylock. To people thinking that way, any such statement constitutes fightin&#8217; words.</p>
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