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	<title>Comments on: Weapons, and Weapons</title>
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		<title>By: cvmay</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2009/01/09/weapons-and-weapons/comment-page-1/#comment-372313</link>
		<dc:creator>cvmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Israeli commanders may or may not realize it, but from a truly Jewish perspective, their most potent weapons are not munitions but actions like the warning phone calls and “roof knockings.” The Jewish religious tradition teaches that what ultimately win wars and protect against enemies are not bullets and bombs but good deeds and prayer. There are weapons, and there are weapons&quot;. 

Since the majority of Israeli commanders are religious Jews, they are AWARE that good deeds and prayer are the ammunition of success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Israeli commanders may or may not realize it, but from a truly Jewish perspective, their most potent weapons are not munitions but actions like the warning phone calls and “roof knockings.” The Jewish religious tradition teaches that what ultimately win wars and protect against enemies are not bullets and bombs but good deeds and prayer. There are weapons, and there are weapons&#8221;. </p>
<p>Since the majority of Israeli commanders are religious Jews, they are AWARE that good deeds and prayer are the ammunition of success.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Maybe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Maybe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thousands of missles rain down on Israeli population centers, and barely anyone is killed. One errant missle misfires its way into Gaza and there are 40 casualties. Reminds me of the Gulf war in the 90s when we witnessed similar events.

If this were a story from ancient times, it would sound like this: A few Jews walked down to the front, braving a hail of spears and arrows, they arrived with a scratched shoulder and a sprained ankle, they shot a few arrows of their own and  hundreds of Greek conscripts immediately expired. Pretty miraculous, huh?

But today we just chalk it up to luck, good safety procedures, well-built shelters, and other such rationalizations. If the menorah had burned 8 days on one measure of oil in OUR times, we&#039;d have said well, it must have been that dry Temple air, or it was some type of genetically-enhanced super-oil that is 8 times more efficient than normal oil, or maybe it&#039;s all a PR stunt by those sly Hasmoneans.

And that&#039;s probably exactly what the Hellenists did say back then. The successful campaign against hordes of Greeks? Darn, those Hasmoneans are good, aren&#039;t they? They fight like tigers! Greek losers can&#039;t hold a spear to save their lives. We&#039;ve been saying all along, drop this prayer thing. You need military training! Good weaponry! Solid communication! Reliable intel! That&#039;s the ticket to victory.

We need to work on seeing the Guiding Hand in all events that transpire around us. G-d is making this a lot easier by performing open miracles in the Middle East. Today. Not 2000 years ago. But we are so used to hearing that the miracle of the human brain is a accident of nature, that the survival of Jews through the ages can be explained with societal factors, that so many miraculous wonders aren&#039;t miraculous but perfectly normal -- we can&#039;t see the open miracles anymore -- too many athiestic cataracts blurring our vision. At this rate, how will we know when Moshiach really is here? What&#039;s he going to need to do to impress us? Raise the dead? Oh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thousands of missles rain down on Israeli population centers, and barely anyone is killed. One errant missle misfires its way into Gaza and there are 40 casualties. Reminds me of the Gulf war in the 90s when we witnessed similar events.</p>
<p>If this were a story from ancient times, it would sound like this: A few Jews walked down to the front, braving a hail of spears and arrows, they arrived with a scratched shoulder and a sprained ankle, they shot a few arrows of their own and  hundreds of Greek conscripts immediately expired. Pretty miraculous, huh?</p>
<p>But today we just chalk it up to luck, good safety procedures, well-built shelters, and other such rationalizations. If the menorah had burned 8 days on one measure of oil in OUR times, we&#8217;d have said well, it must have been that dry Temple air, or it was some type of genetically-enhanced super-oil that is 8 times more efficient than normal oil, or maybe it&#8217;s all a PR stunt by those sly Hasmoneans.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s probably exactly what the Hellenists did say back then. The successful campaign against hordes of Greeks? Darn, those Hasmoneans are good, aren&#8217;t they? They fight like tigers! Greek losers can&#8217;t hold a spear to save their lives. We&#8217;ve been saying all along, drop this prayer thing. You need military training! Good weaponry! Solid communication! Reliable intel! That&#8217;s the ticket to victory.</p>
<p>We need to work on seeing the Guiding Hand in all events that transpire around us. G-d is making this a lot easier by performing open miracles in the Middle East. Today. Not 2000 years ago. But we are so used to hearing that the miracle of the human brain is a accident of nature, that the survival of Jews through the ages can be explained with societal factors, that so many miraculous wonders aren&#8217;t miraculous but perfectly normal &#8212; we can&#8217;t see the open miracles anymore &#8212; too many athiestic cataracts blurring our vision. At this rate, how will we know when Moshiach really is here? What&#8217;s he going to need to do to impress us? Raise the dead? Oh.</p>
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		<title>By: Yossie Abramson</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2009/01/09/weapons-and-weapons/comment-page-1/#comment-372293</link>
		<dc:creator>Yossie Abramson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What also works is hishtadlus, and hishtadlus can mean shooting a gun, or it can mean having a rally to sway public opinion. It is telling that in the upcoming rally in NYC on Monday, the Agudah is absent from the list of sponsors. Haven&#039;t they learned anything from the last Israel rally they didn&#039;t sponsor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What also works is hishtadlus, and hishtadlus can mean shooting a gun, or it can mean having a rally to sway public opinion. It is telling that in the upcoming rally in NYC on Monday, the Agudah is absent from the list of sponsors. Haven&#8217;t they learned anything from the last Israel rally they didn&#8217;t sponsor?</p>
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