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	<title>Comments on: A Celebrity on Gemara</title>
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		<title>By: mycroft</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/12/15/a-celebrity-on-gemara/#comment-75230</link>
		<dc:creator>mycroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 06:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we don’t need evidence that that generation was largely lost. if anything, it is evidence that our investment in jewish education is paying off for us and our children

Comment by Jewish Observer 


Not so clear-we have a different population base-most Orthodox Jews today trace anjcestry to immigration to US after 1933-impact of Nazi persecution. Those had a higher % of Ortho Jews than earlier when most Rabbonim discouraged Emigration to US as a treif medinah. Also one does not have too much if dont come in on Shabbos don't come in on Monday.
Sadly, ignored is how many Jews are lost to Yahadus because of Day Schools-the bar has be3en raised to remain in our community-those who get pushed out are much more likely to leave the "Derech".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we don’t need evidence that that generation was largely lost. if anything, it is evidence that our investment in jewish education is paying off for us and our children</p>
<p>Comment by Jewish Observer </p>
<p>Not so clear-we have a different population base-most Orthodox Jews today trace anjcestry to immigration to US after 1933-impact of Nazi persecution. Those had a higher % of Ortho Jews than earlier when most Rabbonim discouraged Emigration to US as a treif medinah. Also one does not have too much if dont come in on Shabbos don&#8217;t come in on Monday.<br />
Sadly, ignored is how many Jews are lost to Yahadus because of Day Schools-the bar has be3en raised to remain in our community-those who get pushed out are much more likely to leave the &#8220;Derech&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewish Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/12/15/a-celebrity-on-gemara/#comment-74813</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewish Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"NO! Look at what they accomplished!"

- good point. after all, we do believe that Torah is the basis for other chochmos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;NO! Look at what they accomplished!&#8221;</p>
<p>- good point. after all, we do believe that Torah is the basis for other chochmos.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles B. Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles B. Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to acknowledge Leonard Bernstein for introducing me to classical music through his televised "Young People's Concerts". I still vividly remember his description of Beethoven's "Fidelio". 

How would the frum world today have handled Bernstein's for mixed and female voices, and his mentoring of female vocalists such as Eileen Farrell? And how would the frum world have handled Bernstein's homosexuality, which appears to have troubled him throughout his life?

It should be pointed out that Leonard Bernstein, in spite of his rejection of Jewish observance, always identified as a Jew and made a point of conducting in Israel on a regular basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to acknowledge Leonard Bernstein for introducing me to classical music through his televised &#8220;Young People&#8217;s Concerts&#8221;. I still vividly remember his description of Beethoven&#8217;s &#8220;Fidelio&#8221;. </p>
<p>How would the frum world today have handled Bernstein&#8217;s for mixed and female voices, and his mentoring of female vocalists such as Eileen Farrell? And how would the frum world have handled Bernstein&#8217;s homosexuality, which appears to have troubled him throughout his life?</p>
<p>It should be pointed out that Leonard Bernstein, in spite of his rejection of Jewish observance, always identified as a Jew and made a point of conducting in Israel on a regular basis.</p>
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		<title>By: mb</title>
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		<dc:creator>mb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry Kissinger may have borrowed his thought from the following, perhaps surpising,statement," The return to Zion must be preceded by our return to Judaism" Theodor Herzl, 1897
Page 107 Book of Jewish Thoughts, edited by 
Chief Rabbi Dr.J.H.Hertz Zt'l</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry Kissinger may have borrowed his thought from the following, perhaps surpising,statement,&#8221; The return to Zion must be preceded by our return to Judaism&#8221; Theodor Herzl, 1897<br />
Page 107 Book of Jewish Thoughts, edited by<br />
Chief Rabbi Dr.J.H.Hertz Zt&#8217;l</p>
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		<title>By: alfie</title>
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		<dc:creator>alfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 04:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NO! Look at what they accomplished!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO! Look at what they accomplished!</p>
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		<title>By: Jewish Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jewish Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 04:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"isn’t it at all sad that these two sons of Torah scholars, while successful professionally, abandoned lives of Torah observance?"

we don't need evidence that that generation was largely lost. if anything, it is evidence that our investment in jewish education is paying off for us and our children</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;isn’t it at all sad that these two sons of Torah scholars, while successful professionally, abandoned lives of Torah observance?&#8221;</p>
<p>we don&#8217;t need evidence that that generation was largely lost. if anything, it is evidence that our investment in jewish education is paying off for us and our children</p>
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		<title>By: ralphie</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralphie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is all "glass is half-empty," but isn't it at all sad that these two sons of Torah scholars, while successful professionally, abandoned lives of Torah observance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is all &#8220;glass is half-empty,&#8221; but isn&#8217;t it at all sad that these two sons of Torah scholars, while successful professionally, abandoned lives of Torah observance?</p>
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