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	<title>Comments on: Kazakhstan 2, Baron Cohen 0</title>
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		<title>By: Jesse Curtin</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/09/21/kazakhstan-2-boran-cohen-0/#comment-70567</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Curtin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 18:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Seth, and I think that the Borat videos are the funniest thing ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Seth, and I think that the Borat videos are the funniest thing ever.</p>
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		<title>By: AbbaGav</title>
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		<dc:creator>AbbaGav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Haveil Havalim #88, the mid-Holidays Edition...&lt;/strong&gt;

With this edition of Haveil Havalim, my first official new post on my official new blog (not counting the test ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Haveil Havalim #88, the mid-Holidays Edition&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>With this edition of Haveil Havalim, my first official new post on my official new blog (not counting the test &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: joel rich</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/09/21/kazakhstan-2-boran-cohen-0/#comment-70277</link>
		<dc:creator>joel rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See today's NY Times for an article on the topic.
GCT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See today&#8217;s NY Times for an article on the topic.<br />
GCT</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Kazakhstan remains a very imperfect democracy&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As far as I can tell from Wikipedia and from reports like &lt;a href="http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/10/12/kazakh11856.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, Kazakhstan is "a very imperfect democracy" in the sense that football is "very imperfect baseball".  The current president of Kazakhstan was the head of the Kazakh Communist Party before Kazakhstan became independent, and has ruled the country continuously since independence.  The largest opposition party has been outlawed.  The ruling party won the last election with over 90% of the vote, in an election that, according to OSCE observers, did not meet international standards.

In other words, the country has gone from being a republic within a one-party authoritarian state to being an independent one-party authoritarian state.  Given this history, and given that the population is about evenly split between Muslims and Orthodox Christians, I'm not surprised that political Islam hasn't gained a toehold there.

If Kazakh government officials are really interested in "using rational discourse" to resolve disputes, maybe they could start by legalizing such discourse among their own citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Kazakhstan remains a very imperfect democracy</p></blockquote>
<p>As far as I can tell from Wikipedia and from reports like <a href="http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/10/12/kazakh11856.htm" rel="nofollow">this</a>, Kazakhstan is &#8220;a very imperfect democracy&#8221; in the sense that football is &#8220;very imperfect baseball&#8221;.  The current president of Kazakhstan was the head of the Kazakh Communist Party before Kazakhstan became independent, and has ruled the country continuously since independence.  The largest opposition party has been outlawed.  The ruling party won the last election with over 90% of the vote, in an election that, according to OSCE observers, did not meet international standards.</p>
<p>In other words, the country has gone from being a republic within a one-party authoritarian state to being an independent one-party authoritarian state.  Given this history, and given that the population is about evenly split between Muslims and Orthodox Christians, I&#8217;m not surprised that political Islam hasn&#8217;t gained a toehold there.</p>
<p>If Kazakh government officials are really interested in &#8220;using rational discourse&#8221; to resolve disputes, maybe they could start by legalizing such discourse among their own citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewish Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jewish Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 01:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The academic world?"

- means the world of scholarship, universities, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The academic world?&#8221;</p>
<p>- means the world of scholarship, universities, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Yitzchok Adlerstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yitzchok Adlerstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam - 

Well, yes, actually.  The Wikipedia entry for Ali G has an entire subsection devoted to it.

Anon- 

You do seem to be correct.  The point still remains that they have made some headway simply by not acting like other parts of the Muslim world.  Kazakhstan remains a very imperfect democracy, with charges of the constant presence of the heavy hand of the government against opposition parties, press, etc - but after only a short time playing at it, they are well ahead of so many other places in the Muslim world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam - </p>
<p>Well, yes, actually.  The Wikipedia entry for Ali G has an entire subsection devoted to it.</p>
<p>Anon- </p>
<p>You do seem to be correct.  The point still remains that they have made some headway simply by not acting like other parts of the Muslim world.  Kazakhstan remains a very imperfect democracy, with charges of the constant presence of the heavy hand of the government against opposition parties, press, etc - but after only a short time playing at it, they are well ahead of so many other places in the Muslim world.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Borat is NOT going to be on the agenda of the Nazarbayev-Bush meetings.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/09/kazakhstan_deni.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Borat is NOT going to be on the agenda of the Nazarbayev-Bush meetings.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/09/kazakhstan_deni.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/09/kazakhstan_deni.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;The academic world hasn’t quite figured out which of these is true.

The academic world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;The academic world hasn’t quite figured out which of these is true.</p>
<p>The academic world?</p>
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