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	<title>Comments on: What do They Know that I Don&#8217;t Know?</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point was that we hope and pray for the best while actually preparing for the "normal" course of events.  Do we consider being at war to be less normal than being without our Temple or being in exile?  Maybe that makes sense, but, until our redemption (may it come soon!), we also shouldn't view our everyday situation as normal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point was that we hope and pray for the best while actually preparing for the &#8220;normal&#8221; course of events.  Do we consider being at war to be less normal than being without our Temple or being in exile?  Maybe that makes sense, but, until our redemption (may it come soon!), we also shouldn&#8217;t view our everyday situation as normal.</p>
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		<title>By: Baruch Horowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baruch Horowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion. 

Rabban Yochanan ben Zaki, who lived at the time of the Churban, instituted Takanos which were built into Halacha  which reflect our hope and belief that the Beis Hamikdash will be rebuilt(Rosh Hashana 30A).

Regarding Kinnos, it is certainly worthwhile to invest in one with a good translation --hard or soft cover--, as this could help one daven, which in turn, helps one merit to see the Geulah. Regarding discarding it, I also have heard a story of a Tzadik who buried kinnos from year to year. 

However, similar to what  Bob has  pointed out, buying a hard cover text, or not discarding whatever type one buys,   is no less a lack of bitachon than buying leather-bound siddurim with  our current tefillah  texts, or I would add, making permanent revisions in one's home(however, I don't think anyone will order a leather-bound kinnos as a gift--this can be seen as a bad omen!).

Furthermore, one can theoretically study the Kinnos the entire year in preparation for next Tisha B'aav(which would be a positive thing), or for the value inherent in understanding the works of the great paytanim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion. </p>
<p>Rabban Yochanan ben Zaki, who lived at the time of the Churban, instituted Takanos which were built into Halacha  which reflect our hope and belief that the Beis Hamikdash will be rebuilt(Rosh Hashana 30A).</p>
<p>Regarding Kinnos, it is certainly worthwhile to invest in one with a good translation &#8211;hard or soft cover&#8211;, as this could help one daven, which in turn, helps one merit to see the Geulah. Regarding discarding it, I also have heard a story of a Tzadik who buried kinnos from year to year. </p>
<p>However, similar to what  Bob has  pointed out, buying a hard cover text, or not discarding whatever type one buys,   is no less a lack of bitachon than buying leather-bound siddurim with  our current tefillah  texts, or I would add, making permanent revisions in one&#8217;s home(however, I don&#8217;t think anyone will order a leather-bound kinnos as a gift&#8211;this can be seen as a bad omen!).</p>
<p>Furthermore, one can theoretically study the Kinnos the entire year in preparation for next Tisha B&#8217;aav(which would be a positive thing), or for the value inherent in understanding the works of the great paytanim.</p>
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		<title>By: Ori Pomerantz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ori Pomerantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israelis are setting in for a long war. That's the correct behavior. 

If you expect that everything will be OK next week, and then the war goes on, you're disappointed and you might get desparate. If you expect it to go on and on and on, you'll be happy whenever it ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israelis are setting in for a long war. That&#8217;s the correct behavior. </p>
<p>If you expect that everything will be OK next week, and then the war goes on, you&#8217;re disappointed and you might get desparate. If you expect it to go on and on and on, you&#8217;ll be happy whenever it ends.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Elias</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Elias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Miller:  There are many people who leave their Kinos in shul every Tisha B'Av morning, not expecting to need it again next year. I myself wouldn't buy a hard-cover edition of Kinos for the same reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Miller:  There are many people who leave their Kinos in shul every Tisha B&#8217;Av morning, not expecting to need it again next year. I myself wouldn&#8217;t buy a hard-cover edition of Kinos for the same reason.</p>
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		<title>By: HILLEL</title>
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		<dc:creator>HILLEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN!</p>
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		<title>By: Jewish Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/08/01/what-do-they-know-that-i-dont-know/#comment-64084</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewish Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"our secular PM"

we are all a mix of holy and secular</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;our secular PM&#8221;</p>
<p>we are all a mix of holy and secular</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see how laminated Tehillim could/should make one uneasy.  But:

We also have many nicely hardbound editions of Kinot.  Are there any Gedolim (belonging to any group) who now recommend softcover only?

In the Amidah and other formal prayers, we beseech HaShem for the restoration of the Torah system of justice, the Davidic dynasty, the Temple and its sacrifices, real peace...

While we fervently hope these will arrive today, we, nevertheless, use hardcover siddurim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see how laminated Tehillim could/should make one uneasy.  But:</p>
<p>We also have many nicely hardbound editions of Kinot.  Are there any Gedolim (belonging to any group) who now recommend softcover only?</p>
<p>In the Amidah and other formal prayers, we beseech HaShem for the restoration of the Torah system of justice, the Davidic dynasty, the Temple and its sacrifices, real peace&#8230;</p>
<p>While we fervently hope these will arrive today, we, nevertheless, use hardcover siddurim.</p>
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