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	<title>Comments on: Setting the Holocaust Hatzala Record Straight</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Brizel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Brizel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mykfroft-Thanks! I am reading the Grobman book. It is an interesting description of how the Vaad worked in the DP camps. I don't believe that one should the view of R Eliezer Silver ZTL is incomplete and that R Rakkafet's book sheds a lot of light on this Gadol who worked with all Gdolim ranging across the board and who was equally at home in the RCA, Agudah and Agudas HaRabbonim. 

That being said,the emails between Drs. Kranzler and Zuroff illustrate the dangers of letting ideological biases influence 
a historian's product. That is probably why Holocaust education in all sectors of the Torah world operates from what one could
call the rehetoric of victimization without any objective analysis which seeks to understand the era in its political, cultural an
and economic antecedents and causes. Until we move out of the blame game and look at it from a Torah perspective, but one at
least informed by the history of the 19th and 20th Century and how we all failed to react , Holocaust education in the Torah
world will be exclusively "rebbishe maasehs" of spiritual reistance, despite the fact that some Gdolim supported and participated
in physical resistance and an attitude that precludes any discussion into the historical events that preceded the rise of the
Nazis, Yimach Shmam vZicram to power. We should be able to engage in a discussion of these issues without being precluded that such a dicsussion is violative of Daas Torah. After all, no less than Rebbitzen Farbstein has accomplished this-why can't we ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mykfroft-Thanks! I am reading the Grobman book. It is an interesting description of how the Vaad worked in the DP camps. I don&#8217;t believe that one should the view of R Eliezer Silver ZTL is incomplete and that R Rakkafet&#8217;s book sheds a lot of light on this Gadol who worked with all Gdolim ranging across the board and who was equally at home in the RCA, Agudah and Agudas HaRabbonim. </p>
<p>That being said,the emails between Drs. Kranzler and Zuroff illustrate the dangers of letting ideological biases influence<br />
a historian&#8217;s product. That is probably why Holocaust education in all sectors of the Torah world operates from what one could<br />
call the rehetoric of victimization without any objective analysis which seeks to understand the era in its political, cultural an<br />
and economic antecedents and causes. Until we move out of the blame game and look at it from a Torah perspective, but one at<br />
least informed by the history of the 19th and 20th Century and how we all failed to react , Holocaust education in the Torah<br />
world will be exclusively &#8220;rebbishe maasehs&#8221; of spiritual reistance, despite the fact that some Gdolim supported and participated<br />
in physical resistance and an attitude that precludes any discussion into the historical events that preceded the rise of the<br />
Nazis, Yimach Shmam vZicram to power. We should be able to engage in a discussion of these issues without being precluded that such a dicsussion is violative of Daas Torah. After all, no less than Rebbitzen Farbstein has accomplished this-why can&#8217;t we ?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. David Kranzler (retired full professor)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. David Kranzler (retired full professor)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 20:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a shame that Dr. Zuroff has difficulty in tellling the truth. I never refused any challenge of his to debate. I repeat, I challenge him to a debate any time he is is the U. S. or when I hope I"YH to be in Israel. Most likely for Sukkot and afterwards. Yad Vashem or the Israel Center,or the Jerusalem Post, would be a good place, but I'll debate him anywhere. In the U.S., Rabbi Proshansky of Teaneck, NJ, offerred his synagogue for such a debate. It could also be held at Yeshiva University, where the administration will provide the forum. I took him on in my two articles in "Jewish Action," where he ignored my points and merely repeated his thesis, to which I again responded.  I challenge him anywhere, any time. Let us see whether Dr. Zuroff will accept this challenge. 
David Kranzler, Ph.D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a shame that Dr. Zuroff has difficulty in tellling the truth. I never refused any challenge of his to debate. I repeat, I challenge him to a debate any time he is is the U. S. or when I hope I&#8221;YH to be in Israel. Most likely for Sukkot and afterwards. Yad Vashem or the Israel Center,or the Jerusalem Post, would be a good place, but I&#8217;ll debate him anywhere. In the U.S., Rabbi Proshansky of Teaneck, NJ, offerred his synagogue for such a debate. It could also be held at Yeshiva University, where the administration will provide the forum. I took him on in my two articles in &#8220;Jewish Action,&#8221; where he ignored my points and merely repeated his thesis, to which I again responded.  I challenge him anywhere, any time. Let us see whether Dr. Zuroff will accept this challenge.<br />
David Kranzler, Ph.D</p>
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		<title>By: mycroft</title>
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		<dc:creator>mycroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with Steve Brizel about reading R. Rothkofp-Rakaffets-book about R. Eliezer Silver ZT"L, that book and his biography of Revel are not only good for understanding two major personalities but in background give a good flavor of issues that were around in the first half of the 20th century.

Re the Holocaust it is clear that mistakes were made by great Zaddikim and Gaonim-nobody is infallible. To be fair Zuroff does mention prominently in his book the march to the White House by Chareidi Rabbonim.
To a great extent I believe that the issue of what mistakes were made during the Holocaust and the reaction of trying to make great leaders into those who didn't make mistakes one that is not productive and just likely to increase sinat chinam on both sides.  A lot is in the packaging Zuroff points out that the Vaad Hazalah was run inefficiently until Mike Tress came to straighten thins out. In a Chareid biography it is pointed out how much Mike Tress did to improve efficincy in Agudah and Vaad Hazalah. Essential agreement on the facts-it is packaging that is different.
Although in general I don't agree with R. Shimon Schwab ZT"L that History with its warts should not be taught-I am 
tempted to agree when disputes about the Holocaust arise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Steve Brizel about reading R. Rothkofp-Rakaffets-book about R. Eliezer Silver ZT&#8221;L, that book and his biography of Revel are not only good for understanding two major personalities but in background give a good flavor of issues that were around in the first half of the 20th century.</p>
<p>Re the Holocaust it is clear that mistakes were made by great Zaddikim and Gaonim-nobody is infallible. To be fair Zuroff does mention prominently in his book the march to the White House by Chareidi Rabbonim.<br />
To a great extent I believe that the issue of what mistakes were made during the Holocaust and the reaction of trying to make great leaders into those who didn&#8217;t make mistakes one that is not productive and just likely to increase sinat chinam on both sides.  A lot is in the packaging Zuroff points out that the Vaad Hazalah was run inefficiently until Mike Tress came to straighten thins out. In a Chareid biography it is pointed out how much Mike Tress did to improve efficincy in Agudah and Vaad Hazalah. Essential agreement on the facts-it is packaging that is different.<br />
Although in general I don&#8217;t agree with R. Shimon Schwab ZT&#8221;L that History with its warts should not be taught-I am<br />
tempted to agree when disputes about the Holocaust arise.</p>
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		<title>By: MLW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MLW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 20:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Has anybody considered the fact that the “godless communists” (Soviet Russia, Yugoslav partisans) saved many more Jews than the meager numbers saved by the anti-Zionist orthodox...One possible obstacle in saving significant numbers of haredim was that they mistrusted and considered communism a bigger threat that Nazism."

Actually, the Chareidim WERE right.  In the end, Stalin did far more damage to Judaism than Hitler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Has anybody considered the fact that the “godless communists” (Soviet Russia, Yugoslav partisans) saved many more Jews than the meager numbers saved by the anti-Zionist orthodox&#8230;One possible obstacle in saving significant numbers of haredim was that they mistrusted and considered communism a bigger threat that Nazism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, the Chareidim WERE right.  In the end, Stalin did far more damage to Judaism than Hitler.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.Efraim Zuroff</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/01/22/setting-the-holocaust-hatzala-record-straight/#comment-51698</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.Efraim Zuroff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the absolutely endearing traits of Professor( of Library Science)Kranzler is that he applies the same standards to his own research as he does to the historical record of his favorite rabbis.Thus just as he is incapable of attributing any mistakes to certain rabbis, he denies making any mistakes in his books and articles.This is the only possible explanation for his unbelievable statement that I did not find a single mistake in his book "Thy Brother's Blood," when my review pointed out numerous such mistakes, so many serious ones in fact, that I even contemplated not writing the review because it was so embarassing for him.
As far as his supposed  readiness to debate me, he refused to do so as recently as two years ago when Jonathan Rosenblum chickened out of such a debate in Nof Ayalon on Chol Hamoed Sukkot and instead suggested that DK fill in for him but the dauntless professor( of Library Science) refused the invitation.Of course there is no way that the readers of this list would know that since it was not publicized and therefore DK can tell you of his courageous readiness to debate me anywhere any time.
My advice to all of you interested in the topic:Read my book.Read my review of DK's "Thy Brothers' Blood" and judge for your selves, u-ba l'Tziyon goell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the absolutely endearing traits of Professor( of Library Science)Kranzler is that he applies the same standards to his own research as he does to the historical record of his favorite rabbis.Thus just as he is incapable of attributing any mistakes to certain rabbis, he denies making any mistakes in his books and articles.This is the only possible explanation for his unbelievable statement that I did not find a single mistake in his book &#8220;Thy Brother&#8217;s Blood,&#8221; when my review pointed out numerous such mistakes, so many serious ones in fact, that I even contemplated not writing the review because it was so embarassing for him.<br />
As far as his supposed  readiness to debate me, he refused to do so as recently as two years ago when Jonathan Rosenblum chickened out of such a debate in Nof Ayalon on Chol Hamoed Sukkot and instead suggested that DK fill in for him but the dauntless professor( of Library Science) refused the invitation.Of course there is no way that the readers of this list would know that since it was not publicized and therefore DK can tell you of his courageous readiness to debate me anywhere any time.<br />
My advice to all of you interested in the topic:Read my book.Read my review of DK&#8217;s &#8220;Thy Brothers&#8217; Blood&#8221; and judge for your selves, u-ba l&#8217;Tziyon goell.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Brizel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Brizel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone from New Milford, NJ was kind enough to mail me a copy of Dr Grobman's book without any 
charge or retrun address. Whoever you are, I thank you. I would also suggest that anyone interested
in reading about R Eliezer Silver ZTL read R Rakkafet's bio "The Silver Era". It is a wonderful profile of an Adam Gadol who was a talmid of R Chaim Brisker and R Chaim Ozer Zicronam Livacha and 
who literally "danced at two chasunas"-as a supporter of the Agudah, Agudas HaRabbonim and the RCA.
It is must reading on the development of the Torah community in the US both before WW2 and afterwards
, along with R Silver ZTL's relationships with all of the Gdolim ranging from R A Kotler to RYBS, Zicronam Livracha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone from New Milford, NJ was kind enough to mail me a copy of Dr Grobman&#8217;s book without any<br />
charge or retrun address. Whoever you are, I thank you. I would also suggest that anyone interested<br />
in reading about R Eliezer Silver ZTL read R Rakkafet&#8217;s bio &#8220;The Silver Era&#8221;. It is a wonderful profile of an Adam Gadol who was a talmid of R Chaim Brisker and R Chaim Ozer Zicronam Livacha and<br />
who literally &#8220;danced at two chasunas&#8221;-as a supporter of the Agudah, Agudas HaRabbonim and the RCA.<br />
It is must reading on the development of the Torah community in the US both before WW2 and afterwards<br />
, along with R Silver ZTL&#8217;s relationships with all of the Gdolim ranging from R A Kotler to RYBS, Zicronam Livracha.</p>
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		<title>By: moshe brodetzky</title>
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		<dc:creator>moshe brodetzky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ES TUT VEI !  it hurts ! not one hint of HAINT - where are we ? - just 20+ years ago there was a MUSEUM OF THE FUTURE HOLOCAUST in JERUSALEM. It was set up by R' MEIR KAHANNA ( hashem yinkkom damo) and shut down by the gov't of Israel. Let K....and Z. ..put their pens together and reopen the MUSEUM OF THE FUTURE HOLOCAUST lezichrono</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ES TUT VEI !  it hurts ! not one hint of HAINT - where are we ? - just 20+ years ago there was a MUSEUM OF THE FUTURE HOLOCAUST in JERUSALEM. It was set up by R&#8217; MEIR KAHANNA ( hashem yinkkom damo) and shut down by the gov&#8217;t of Israel. Let K&#8230;.and Z. ..put their pens together and reopen the MUSEUM OF THE FUTURE HOLOCAUST lezichrono</p>
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		<title>By: Shabetai Perera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shabetai Perera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 03:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anybody considered the fact that the "godless communists" (Soviet Russia, Yugoslav partisans) saved many more Jews than the meager numbers saved by the anti-Zionist orthodox.  Dr. Zuroff probably has the numbers.  One possible obstacle in saving significant numbers of haredim was that they mistrusted and considered communism a bigger threat that Nazism.  They agreed, without realizing it, with papa Pacelli (Pius XII) and papa Montini (Paul VI) who both thought that Stalin was a greater threat than Hitler. I would like Dr. Zuroff to comment, if possible.  Thank you.
Shabetai Perera, PhD, Applied Math</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anybody considered the fact that the &#8220;godless communists&#8221; (Soviet Russia, Yugoslav partisans) saved many more Jews than the meager numbers saved by the anti-Zionist orthodox.  Dr. Zuroff probably has the numbers.  One possible obstacle in saving significant numbers of haredim was that they mistrusted and considered communism a bigger threat that Nazism.  They agreed, without realizing it, with papa Pacelli (Pius XII) and papa Montini (Paul VI) who both thought that Stalin was a greater threat than Hitler. I would like Dr. Zuroff to comment, if possible.  Thank you.<br />
Shabetai Perera, PhD, Applied Math</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. David Kranzler (retired full professor)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. David Kranzler (retired full professor)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Dr. Zuroff has been trying so hard to denigrate my academic credentials, I would like to set the record straight.   I have a BA in history (Brooklyn College), an MA in East Asian  History (CUNY) and an MLS in Library Science (Columbia), as well as a  Ph.D. in Jewish History (with 120 credits) from the Revel  Graduate School of Yeshiva University.

Incidentally, my degree in Library Science honed my skills in research and scholarly format, which gives me an edge in research and research tools on numerous subjects.  Based on my academic achievements,  I am the only (non chief) librarian in the City University to have attained the level of full professorship. 

As a historian, I authored ten books on the Holocaust, mostly on rescue and rescue attempts during that tragic period. My first book, (Japanese, Nazis and Jews: the Jewish Refugee Community of Shanghai 1938-45. Yeshiva U. Press, 1976) was based on my dissertation. Two years ago, it was  awarded the prize of inclusion "Among the 100,000 Most Significant Books (not only Jewish) Published from 1930 to 2000." A more recent book, “The Man Who Stopped the Trains to Auschwitz,” (Syracuse U. Press, 2000), was awarded the "1998 Histadrut Prize for the Best Manuscript on the Holocaust."  Based on my scholarship, three years ago I was granted a Four Month Senior Research Fellowship  at Yad Vashem.  Prof. Yehuda Bauer, Dr. Zuroff's mentor, and Israel’s foremost authority on the Holocaust, with whom I have disagreed on scholarly issues (never personally) for many years, gave his approval for this Fellowship. Ironically, in the Foreword to Dr. Zuroff's book, it was Professor Bauer who noted “[Dr.] Efraim Zuroff follows in the footsteps of David Kranzler and other pioneers in this field."

I’d be happy to debate with Dr. Zuroff, any aspect of rescue and Jewish organizations during the Holocaust, in any venue, in any place, whether in Israel or in the United States. 

I would agree with Dr. Zuroff that the reader would be advised to see his article in “American Jewish History” where, in five pages, he is unable to contradict a single fact in my book “Thy Brother’s Blood”.  What is interesting, however, is his concluding sentence, "What do you expect from the Charedim they know neither Hebrew nor history."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Dr. Zuroff has been trying so hard to denigrate my academic credentials, I would like to set the record straight.   I have a BA in history (Brooklyn College), an MA in East Asian  History (CUNY) and an MLS in Library Science (Columbia), as well as a  Ph.D. in Jewish History (with 120 credits) from the Revel  Graduate School of Yeshiva University.</p>
<p>Incidentally, my degree in Library Science honed my skills in research and scholarly format, which gives me an edge in research and research tools on numerous subjects.  Based on my academic achievements,  I am the only (non chief) librarian in the City University to have attained the level of full professorship. </p>
<p>As a historian, I authored ten books on the Holocaust, mostly on rescue and rescue attempts during that tragic period. My first book, (Japanese, Nazis and Jews: the Jewish Refugee Community of Shanghai 1938-45. Yeshiva U. Press, 1976) was based on my dissertation. Two years ago, it was  awarded the prize of inclusion &#8220;Among the 100,000 Most Significant Books (not only Jewish) Published from 1930 to 2000.&#8221; A more recent book, “The Man Who Stopped the Trains to Auschwitz,” (Syracuse U. Press, 2000), was awarded the &#8220;1998 Histadrut Prize for the Best Manuscript on the Holocaust.&#8221;  Based on my scholarship, three years ago I was granted a Four Month Senior Research Fellowship  at Yad Vashem.  Prof. Yehuda Bauer, Dr. Zuroff&#8217;s mentor, and Israel’s foremost authority on the Holocaust, with whom I have disagreed on scholarly issues (never personally) for many years, gave his approval for this Fellowship. Ironically, in the Foreword to Dr. Zuroff&#8217;s book, it was Professor Bauer who noted “[Dr.] Efraim Zuroff follows in the footsteps of David Kranzler and other pioneers in this field.&#8221;</p>
<p>I’d be happy to debate with Dr. Zuroff, any aspect of rescue and Jewish organizations during the Holocaust, in any venue, in any place, whether in Israel or in the United States. </p>
<p>I would agree with Dr. Zuroff that the reader would be advised to see his article in “American Jewish History” where, in five pages, he is unable to contradict a single fact in my book “Thy Brother’s Blood”.  What is interesting, however, is his concluding sentence, &#8220;What do you expect from the Charedim they know neither Hebrew nor history.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.Efraim Zuroff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.Efraim Zuroff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations Prof.(of Library Science, not of history or Jewish history)Kranzler,
You finally caught a genuine mistake that I made.I'm sure it made your day( and that of J.Rosenblum and A.Grobman).
You are indeed correct that Rabbi Wolf Gold was NOT President of American Aguda and that he was one of the leaders of American Mizrachi.
Having said that, I believe that persons curious about issues concerning Orthodox rescue efforts will no doubt find my review of the book you mentioned "Thy Brothers' Blood" of great interest since they will be informed of far more serious mistakes regarding major historical events that you made there, as well as in other publications.The review was published in:
"American Jewish History," Vol.78, No. 1(September 1988), pages 132-136 and will go a long way toward explaining your obsession to try and delegitimize my research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Prof.(of Library Science, not of history or Jewish history)Kranzler,<br />
You finally caught a genuine mistake that I made.I&#8217;m sure it made your day( and that of J.Rosenblum and A.Grobman).<br />
You are indeed correct that Rabbi Wolf Gold was NOT President of American Aguda and that he was one of the leaders of American Mizrachi.<br />
Having said that, I believe that persons curious about issues concerning Orthodox rescue efforts will no doubt find my review of the book you mentioned &#8220;Thy Brothers&#8217; Blood&#8221; of great interest since they will be informed of far more serious mistakes regarding major historical events that you made there, as well as in other publications.The review was published in:<br />
&#8220;American Jewish History,&#8221; Vol.78, No. 1(September 1988), pages 132-136 and will go a long way toward explaining your obsession to try and delegitimize my research.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. David Kranzler (retired full professor)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. David Kranzler (retired full professor)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For an honest portrayal of the controversy between Dr. Zuroff and myself, concerning the Orthodox rescue efforts during the Holocaust, one would be advised to read two articles in “Jewish Action.”  The first, in "Jewish Action" (Fall, 2002), pp. 32-39, is my fully documented critical review of Dr. Zuroff's book on the Vaad Hatzalah. His response and my answer to his response is found in "Jewish Action" (Spring,2003), pp. 32-39. For a review of an earlier misunderstanding of the Orthodox by Dr. Zuroff, see my book, "Thy Brother's Blood: The Orthodox Jewish Response During the Holocaust", page 68, one of my ten books devoted to rescue and rescue attempts during the Holocaust. 

One of Dr. Zuroff’s most recent egregious historical errors, is found in his article entitled "The Evolution of American Orthodox Relief and Rescue Efforts During the Holocaust: Two Documents," found in the “Journal of Ecumenical Studies" (Fall, 2003), p. 456, where he cites Rabbi [Dr.] Wolf Gold as "President, Agudas [sic] Israel."  To clarify, Dr. Zuroff provides a footnote with a brief history of Agudas Israel. In reality, Rabbi Dr. Wolf Gold was a major Mizrahi leader and former president of Mizrahi of America and one of the founders of Mesivta Torah Vodaath. It was Rabbi Eliezer Silver who founded both the Vaad Hatzalah and Agudath Israel of America, in 1939, at the behest of his former teacher, Hagaon Rav Chaim Ozer Grodzinski, of Vilna.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an honest portrayal of the controversy between Dr. Zuroff and myself, concerning the Orthodox rescue efforts during the Holocaust, one would be advised to read two articles in “Jewish Action.”  The first, in &#8220;Jewish Action&#8221; (Fall, 2002), pp. 32-39, is my fully documented critical review of Dr. Zuroff&#8217;s book on the Vaad Hatzalah. His response and my answer to his response is found in &#8220;Jewish Action&#8221; (Spring,2003), pp. 32-39. For a review of an earlier misunderstanding of the Orthodox by Dr. Zuroff, see my book, &#8220;Thy Brother&#8217;s Blood: The Orthodox Jewish Response During the Holocaust&#8221;, page 68, one of my ten books devoted to rescue and rescue attempts during the Holocaust. </p>
<p>One of Dr. Zuroff’s most recent egregious historical errors, is found in his article entitled &#8220;The Evolution of American Orthodox Relief and Rescue Efforts During the Holocaust: Two Documents,&#8221; found in the “Journal of Ecumenical Studies&#8221; (Fall, 2003), p. 456, where he cites Rabbi [Dr.] Wolf Gold as &#8220;President, Agudas [sic] Israel.&#8221;  To clarify, Dr. Zuroff provides a footnote with a brief history of Agudas Israel. In reality, Rabbi Dr. Wolf Gold was a major Mizrahi leader and former president of Mizrahi of America and one of the founders of Mesivta Torah Vodaath. It was Rabbi Eliezer Silver who founded both the Vaad Hatzalah and Agudath Israel of America, in 1939, at the behest of his former teacher, Hagaon Rav Chaim Ozer Grodzinski, of Vilna.</p>
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		<title>By: HILLEL</title>
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		<dc:creator>HILLEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm reading a lot of comments about the "Kastner Transport" of prominent Jews who left Hungary in 1944 on a special train arranged by Eichman himself.

But no one has pointed out that this transport was arranged as part of a deal between Eichman, the murderer of Hungarian Jewry, and Kastner, the representative of the zionists in Hungary.

According to the record of the Kastner trial in Israel, Eichman struck a deal with with Kastner as follows: Kastner would pacify Hungarian Jewry by telling them that the Nazis would not harm them. In exchange, Eichman would allow Kastner to select about 1500 prominent Jews for a special transport that would be allowed to go to freedom in Switzerland.

Kastner kept his part of the bargain. He travelled around Hungary assuring everyone that they were being sent to labor camps--not Auschwitz. This was a lie, and Kastner knew it.

Eichman kept his part of the deal, too.

The Satmar Rebbe got a spot on the train as a result of bribery by his Chassidim. The train was supposed to be for zionist officials only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading a lot of comments about the &#8220;Kastner Transport&#8221; of prominent Jews who left Hungary in 1944 on a special train arranged by Eichman himself.</p>
<p>But no one has pointed out that this transport was arranged as part of a deal between Eichman, the murderer of Hungarian Jewry, and Kastner, the representative of the zionists in Hungary.</p>
<p>According to the record of the Kastner trial in Israel, Eichman struck a deal with with Kastner as follows: Kastner would pacify Hungarian Jewry by telling them that the Nazis would not harm them. In exchange, Eichman would allow Kastner to select about 1500 prominent Jews for a special transport that would be allowed to go to freedom in Switzerland.</p>
<p>Kastner kept his part of the bargain. He travelled around Hungary assuring everyone that they were being sent to labor camps&#8211;not Auschwitz. This was a lie, and Kastner knew it.</p>
<p>Eichman kept his part of the deal, too.</p>
<p>The Satmar Rebbe got a spot on the train as a result of bribery by his Chassidim. The train was supposed to be for zionist officials only.</p>
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		<title>By: MLW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MLW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"There is no doubt that Hungarian Jews were sold out but I would from what I heard in my family and from what I have read on the subject, I would look alot further than just some rabbis."

I believe Kastner himself had a hand in selling out the Hungarian Jews...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no doubt that Hungarian Jews were sold out but I would from what I heard in my family and from what I have read on the subject, I would look alot further than just some rabbis.&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe Kastner himself had a hand in selling out the Hungarian Jews&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Silky Pitterman</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/01/22/setting-the-holocaust-hatzala-record-straight/#comment-51423</link>
		<dc:creator>Silky Pitterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 01:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think you could say that "the gedolim" told people to stay while saving themselves.  Many leaders told the people not to make trouble for the Nazis.My mother was only 12 at the time, but she remembers the rabbi in her city in Hungary telling the people not to worry.  Many people did hear the warnings of the Polish refugees, but my mother said that no one could beleive that such a thing could happen. My mother doesn't know whether or not that rabbi got out in the Kastner transport.
My father was from the Carpathean area of Czeckeslavakia.  I know that the Tzailemer Rebbe came to America before the borders close but I highly doubt that the Rebbe told people to stay.  He lost many members of his family.  I'm sure he would have saved them if he could have.
There is no doubt that Hungarian Jews were sold out but I would from what I heard in my family and from what I have read on the subject, I would look alot further than just some rabbis.
Silky Pitterman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you could say that &#8220;the gedolim&#8221; told people to stay while saving themselves.  Many leaders told the people not to make trouble for the Nazis.My mother was only 12 at the time, but she remembers the rabbi in her city in Hungary telling the people not to worry.  Many people did hear the warnings of the Polish refugees, but my mother said that no one could beleive that such a thing could happen. My mother doesn&#8217;t know whether or not that rabbi got out in the Kastner transport.<br />
My father was from the Carpathean area of Czeckeslavakia.  I know that the Tzailemer Rebbe came to America before the borders close but I highly doubt that the Rebbe told people to stay.  He lost many members of his family.  I&#8217;m sure he would have saved them if he could have.<br />
There is no doubt that Hungarian Jews were sold out but I would from what I heard in my family and from what I have read on the subject, I would look alot further than just some rabbis.<br />
Silky Pitterman</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Brizel</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/01/22/setting-the-holocaust-hatzala-record-straight/#comment-51409</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Brizel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. Friedman's comment certainly supports my contention that Gdolim and Admorim urged their followers to stay but who ultimately left , whether via the Kastner Transport or other means. On the other hand, as Rebbitzen Farbstein pointed out, the decision to flee or stay was a judgment call for many Rabbonim, Roshei Yeshivah and Admorim, especially in Poland. One can certainly contrast the different atitudes and views taken without engaging in second-guessing. However, as I will point out in detail this evening, there is more than enough material to study and teach the next generation about this issue without engaging in the rewriting of drashos and historical perspectives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Friedman&#8217;s comment certainly supports my contention that Gdolim and Admorim urged their followers to stay but who ultimately left , whether via the Kastner Transport or other means. On the other hand, as Rebbitzen Farbstein pointed out, the decision to flee or stay was a judgment call for many Rabbonim, Roshei Yeshivah and Admorim, especially in Poland. One can certainly contrast the different atitudes and views taken without engaging in second-guessing. However, as I will point out in detail this evening, there is more than enough material to study and teach the next generation about this issue without engaging in the rewriting of drashos and historical perspectives.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanette Friedman</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/01/22/setting-the-holocaust-hatzala-record-straight/#comment-51405</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeanette Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am nogeyah bedavar three ways: I edited Dr. Alex Grobman's book Battling for Souls and my mother was on the Kastner transport, and my father was world vice president of the agudath israel. So there's my full disclosure, right up front.

What Alex Grobman forgets to mention in his post is that this is all in his book, Battling for Souls, which came out a couple of years ago to settle the Krazler/Zuroff debate once and for all. He got kudos from both the Agudah and the JDC for finally setting the record straight. As for who told who to stay behind and not go to the Yishuv, I can think of the Satmar Rebbe, who blamed the Zionists for the Holocaust, yet took the Kastner transport out with a Palestine Certificate and went to the Yishuv before he came to Williamsburgh. My uncle was vilifed by his father-in-law, the Minchas Elazar, who also said that the Zionists caused the Holocaust and that everyone should stay put. My uncle the Admor, Baruch Yearchmeil Yehoshua Rabinowich, was trying to get people out to Mandate Palestine, including his sister, my Polish mother--who also landed on the Kastner transport--after he sent her to Freudiger. The Kastner transport would never have left the station if not for the Vaad--but it did and I am here to write this post and tell you all to read Battling for Souls and get the full picture.

Jeanette Friedman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am nogeyah bedavar three ways: I edited Dr. Alex Grobman&#8217;s book Battling for Souls and my mother was on the Kastner transport, and my father was world vice president of the agudath israel. So there&#8217;s my full disclosure, right up front.</p>
<p>What Alex Grobman forgets to mention in his post is that this is all in his book, Battling for Souls, which came out a couple of years ago to settle the Krazler/Zuroff debate once and for all. He got kudos from both the Agudah and the JDC for finally setting the record straight. As for who told who to stay behind and not go to the Yishuv, I can think of the Satmar Rebbe, who blamed the Zionists for the Holocaust, yet took the Kastner transport out with a Palestine Certificate and went to the Yishuv before he came to Williamsburgh. My uncle was vilifed by his father-in-law, the Minchas Elazar, who also said that the Zionists caused the Holocaust and that everyone should stay put. My uncle the Admor, Baruch Yearchmeil Yehoshua Rabinowich, was trying to get people out to Mandate Palestine, including his sister, my Polish mother&#8211;who also landed on the Kastner transport&#8211;after he sent her to Freudiger. The Kastner transport would never have left the station if not for the Vaad&#8211;but it did and I am here to write this post and tell you all to read Battling for Souls and get the full picture.</p>
<p>Jeanette Friedman</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Brizel</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/01/22/setting-the-holocaust-hatzala-record-straight/#comment-51401</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Brizel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillel-The Gerrer Rebbe saw the writing on the wall and escaped Poland ahead of the Nazis. The Belzer Rebbe was aligned with the strongly anti Zionist Munkacher Rebbe ZTL who blamed Polish Jewry for their own misfortunes. Take a look at Aim HaBanim Simecha and the Kaplan article re the attitude of the Hungarian Admorim and the role of the Belzer Rebbe ZTL

It is also known that none less than R E Wasserman ZTL, HaShem Yimkam Damo, also discouraged Talmidim of his from accepting visas that would have provided them with entry to the USA as RY in RIETS and Skokie ( HTC) on the grounds that Europe presented physical danger and the US visas would have placed them in a place of spiritual danger. This is quoted explicitly in the ArtScroll bio of REW. While this was REW’s position, it is also known that many Charedi RY gave shiurim in RIETS in the 1920s and 1930s, including R Shimon Shkopp ZTL and many others. Obviously, they differed with REW’s assessment of RIETS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillel-The Gerrer Rebbe saw the writing on the wall and escaped Poland ahead of the Nazis. The Belzer Rebbe was aligned with the strongly anti Zionist Munkacher Rebbe ZTL who blamed Polish Jewry for their own misfortunes. Take a look at Aim HaBanim Simecha and the Kaplan article re the attitude of the Hungarian Admorim and the role of the Belzer Rebbe ZTL</p>
<p>It is also known that none less than R E Wasserman ZTL, HaShem Yimkam Damo, also discouraged Talmidim of his from accepting visas that would have provided them with entry to the USA as RY in RIETS and Skokie ( HTC) on the grounds that Europe presented physical danger and the US visas would have placed them in a place of spiritual danger. This is quoted explicitly in the ArtScroll bio of REW. While this was REW’s position, it is also known that many Charedi RY gave shiurim in RIETS in the 1920s and 1930s, including R Shimon Shkopp ZTL and many others. Obviously, they differed with REW’s assessment of RIETS.</p>
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		<title>By: HILLEL</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/01/22/setting-the-holocaust-hatzala-record-straight/#comment-51391</link>
		<dc:creator>HILLEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most important Chassidic leader in Europe, the Gerer Rebbe (the Imre Emes), strongly urged his folowers to purchase land in Eretz Yisroel and move there before World War II. In fact, he himself travelled to Eretz Yisroel , purhased land, and refused to return to Europe.

A special Beth Din was convened by his Chassidim to force him to return to Poland.

Now you know the rest of the story!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most important Chassidic leader in Europe, the Gerer Rebbe (the Imre Emes), strongly urged his folowers to purchase land in Eretz Yisroel and move there before World War II. In fact, he himself travelled to Eretz Yisroel , purhased land, and refused to return to Europe.</p>
<p>A special Beth Din was convened by his Chassidim to force him to return to Poland.</p>
<p>Now you know the rest of the story!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Brizel</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/01/22/setting-the-holocaust-hatzala-record-straight/#comment-51386</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Brizel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron-check the date. The speech in question was given by the Belzer Rebbe ZTL in March 1944, immediately before his flight from Hungary. As promised, I will prinnt both versions -the first in which he asked his Chasidim to stay and the sanitized version of the same that was disseminated afterwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron-check the date. The speech in question was given by the Belzer Rebbe ZTL in March 1944, immediately before his flight from Hungary. As promised, I will prinnt both versions -the first in which he asked his Chasidim to stay and the sanitized version of the same that was disseminated afterwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'spriritual leaders who advised their followers to stay behind while they escaped'

What probably happened, if this is true, was that at a cetain early point they didn't advise them to leave, but as the situation got worse later on, it was obvious that everyone should get out. The accusation, I would say, is a half truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8217;spriritual leaders who advised their followers to stay behind while they escaped&#8217;</p>
<p>What probably happened, if this is true, was that at a cetain early point they didn&#8217;t advise them to leave, but as the situation got worse later on, it was obvious that everyone should get out. The accusation, I would say, is a half truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Brizel</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/01/22/setting-the-holocaust-hatzala-record-straight/#comment-51376</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Brizel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at Lawrence Kaplan's essay on Daas Torah in a book published by the orthodox Forum on Halachic Authority and 
Religious Autonomy. Professor Kaplan contrasts two radically different speeches on this issue given by none less than the Belzer Rebbe ZTL. Bezras HaShem, I will post both versions here tonight. Rebbitzen Farbstein contrasts those leaders who stayed and those who left without passing judgment on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at Lawrence Kaplan&#8217;s essay on Daas Torah in a book published by the orthodox Forum on Halachic Authority and<br />
Religious Autonomy. Professor Kaplan contrasts two radically different speeches on this issue given by none less than the Belzer Rebbe ZTL. Bezras HaShem, I will post both versions here tonight. Rebbitzen Farbstein contrasts those leaders who stayed and those who left without passing judgment on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.Efraim Zuroff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.Efraim Zuroff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no intention of refuting every single one of the inane assertions made about me personally or about my research on the Vaad, but I do want to make several things clear.

First and foremost, I find the comments attributing my somewhat critical appraisal of the Vaad's activities to my grandfather's position as head of the Central Orthodox Committee to be utterly ridiculous. For the record, my grandfather z"l passed away when I was less than fourteen years old. He NEVER discussed the subject of the VH with me, so I never heard his views on the topic nor was any effort made subsequently to inform or "enlighten" me about this issue. The problem with my critics is, apparently, that they cannot accept the fact that an Orthodox Jew might be publically critical of a group headed by rabbis. That might be the reality in the haredi world, but it is certainly not my reality. My research shows that the Vaad did some very good things as well as some highly-questionable things, and that is what I have ben saying for the last five years.

Second, I did NOT "boycott" the evening because David Kranzler was scheduled to speak. In fact, I had originally agreed to speak knowing that he was going to speak as well( but not on VH). The reason I pulled out was because I found out that he was going to be HONORED at the event, which is something which-given his unmitigated efforts to besmirsch my research and impugn my integrity-I did not feel that I could be part of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no intention of refuting every single one of the inane assertions made about me personally or about my research on the Vaad, but I do want to make several things clear.</p>
<p>First and foremost, I find the comments attributing my somewhat critical appraisal of the Vaad&#8217;s activities to my grandfather&#8217;s position as head of the Central Orthodox Committee to be utterly ridiculous. For the record, my grandfather z&#8221;l passed away when I was less than fourteen years old. He NEVER discussed the subject of the VH with me, so I never heard his views on the topic nor was any effort made subsequently to inform or &#8220;enlighten&#8221; me about this issue. The problem with my critics is, apparently, that they cannot accept the fact that an Orthodox Jew might be publically critical of a group headed by rabbis. That might be the reality in the haredi world, but it is certainly not my reality. My research shows that the Vaad did some very good things as well as some highly-questionable things, and that is what I have ben saying for the last five years.</p>
<p>Second, I did NOT &#8220;boycott&#8221; the evening because David Kranzler was scheduled to speak. In fact, I had originally agreed to speak knowing that he was going to speak as well( but not on VH). The reason I pulled out was because I found out that he was going to be HONORED at the event, which is something which-given his unmitigated efforts to besmirsch my research and impugn my integrity-I did not feel that I could be part of.</p>
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		<title>By: MLW</title>
		<link>http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/01/22/setting-the-holocaust-hatzala-record-straight/#comment-51366</link>
		<dc:creator>MLW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 05:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"6) spriritual leaders who advised their followers to stay behind while they escaped"

I've heard this many times, but I've never seen any solid examples.  Can you please provide some?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;6) spriritual leaders who advised their followers to stay behind while they escaped&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard this many times, but I&#8217;ve never seen any solid examples.  Can you please provide some?</p>
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		<title>By: Shira Schmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shira Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>22 bTevet
These two letters-to-the-editor were recently published in the Jerusalem Post.
(a) "Why I stayed away "

Sir, - Contrary to "Wiesenthal director boycotts Holocaust event" (January 18), which claimed that I boycotted an evening to honor individuals who rescued Jews during the Holocaust because David Kranzler was among the scheduled speakers, I want to make clear that the reason I changed my original decision to speak was that I found out the organizers planned to honor Kranzler at the event. 

Post readers who have followed the ongoing attempts by Kranzler et Rosenblum to portray me as a charlatan willing to falsify my own research in order to increase book sales by lying about the rescue efforts of American Orthodox activists during the Shoah - while presenting their own seriously-flawed and ideologically-based account of those activities - no doubt understand why I could under no circumstances participate in any event at which such a person was honored for his "historical research."

Those brave individuals who did so much to save Jews during the Holocaust indeed deserve recognition and gratitude, but honoring hagiographers who lack all objectivity and mold their conclusions based on ideological affinity as opposed to accurate research of the historical events hardly contributes something positive to that goal. 

EFRAIM ZUROFF
Director
Simon Wiesenthal CenterIsrael Office
Jerusalem 

(b) Sir, - As opposed to what Efraim Zuroff claims, Prof. David Kranzler did not accuse Zuroff of falsifying research on the Va'ad Hatzala to increase sales of his book on the Va'ad. Rather, Zuroff was accused of falsely representing the contents of his own book in a series of inflammatory interviews in order to hype sales.
For a full account of the dispute see "Anatomy of a Slander" www.jewishmediaresources.org 

JONATHAN ROSENBLUM
Jerusalem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>22 bTevet<br />
These two letters-to-the-editor were recently published in the Jerusalem Post.<br />
(a) &#8220;Why I stayed away &#8221;</p>
<p>Sir, - Contrary to &#8220;Wiesenthal director boycotts Holocaust event&#8221; (January 18), which claimed that I boycotted an evening to honor individuals who rescued Jews during the Holocaust because David Kranzler was among the scheduled speakers, I want to make clear that the reason I changed my original decision to speak was that I found out the organizers planned to honor Kranzler at the event. </p>
<p>Post readers who have followed the ongoing attempts by Kranzler et Rosenblum to portray me as a charlatan willing to falsify my own research in order to increase book sales by lying about the rescue efforts of American Orthodox activists during the Shoah - while presenting their own seriously-flawed and ideologically-based account of those activities - no doubt understand why I could under no circumstances participate in any event at which such a person was honored for his &#8220;historical research.&#8221;</p>
<p>Those brave individuals who did so much to save Jews during the Holocaust indeed deserve recognition and gratitude, but honoring hagiographers who lack all objectivity and mold their conclusions based on ideological affinity as opposed to accurate research of the historical events hardly contributes something positive to that goal. </p>
<p>EFRAIM ZUROFF<br />
Director<br />
Simon Wiesenthal CenterIsrael Office<br />
Jerusalem </p>
<p>(b) Sir, - As opposed to what Efraim Zuroff claims, Prof. David Kranzler did not accuse Zuroff of falsifying research on the Va&#8217;ad Hatzala to increase sales of his book on the Va&#8217;ad. Rather, Zuroff was accused of falsely representing the contents of his own book in a series of inflammatory interviews in order to hype sales.<br />
For a full account of the dispute see &#8220;Anatomy of a Slander&#8221; <a href="http://www.jewishmediaresources.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.jewishmediaresources.org</a> </p>
<p>JONATHAN ROSENBLUM<br />
Jerusalem</p>
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		<description>No idea at all if this is in the slightest bit relevant to this discussion, but it should be noted that there was remarkable partnership of the Cheredi R. Solomon Schonfeld( a talmid of R.Weismandel of Nitra) and the  centrist Chief Rabbi Hertz z'tl, and the rescue of hundreds( 1200) of Rebbeim, Shochtim, teachers etc. from Germany and Austria, and of course the many thousands of children in the kindertransport, barely an Orthodox one amongst them.
( Can't we all just get along? R.Rodney King)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No idea at all if this is in the slightest bit relevant to this discussion, but it should be noted that there was remarkable partnership of the Cheredi R. Solomon Schonfeld( a talmid of R.Weismandel of Nitra) and the  centrist Chief Rabbi Hertz z&#8217;tl, and the rescue of hundreds( 1200) of Rebbeim, Shochtim, teachers etc. from Germany and Austria, and of course the many thousands of children in the kindertransport, barely an Orthodox one amongst them.<br />
( Can&#8217;t we all just get along? R.Rodney King)</p>
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