Comments on: “He didn’t get to say the Shma” http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2005/11/12/he-didnt-get-to-say-the-shma/ A Journal of Jewish Thought and Opinion Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:32:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Shira Schmidt http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2005/11/12/he-didnt-get-to-say-the-shma/#comment-45836 Shira Schmidt Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:54:09 +0000 http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2005/11/12/he-didnt-get-to-say-the-shma/#comment-45836 12 b Heshvan I gave a reference to an article in Haaretz that quotes Rabin’s diatribes against religious Jews and settlers. There were definitely problematic aspects to him. One of them is his role in firing the “holy cannon” that killed Jews when the Hagana sunk the the Altelana ship in 1948 (and shot Jews in the water). I had a conversation with a high school student in Kiryat Sanz immediately after the murder of Rabin. She said one teacher had discussed the shooting of Rabin in terms of Mishna 7 in Pirkey Avos Chapter 2. “He (Hillel) saw a skull floating on the surface of the water. He said to it: Because you drowned [another] you were drowned. And the those who drowned you will, in the end, be drowned themselves.” With respect to what the daughter of the Klausenberger said about Rabin’s murder, I assume she felt it sad that a Jew did not have a chance say the Shema and take other steps (including doing teshuva) before leaving this world. 12 b Heshvan
I gave a reference to an article in Haaretz that quotes Rabin’s diatribes against religious Jews and settlers. There were definitely problematic aspects to him.
One of them is his role in firing the “holy cannon” that killed Jews when the Hagana sunk the the Altelana ship in 1948 (and shot Jews in the water). I had a conversation with a high school student in Kiryat Sanz immediately after the murder of Rabin. She said one teacher had discussed the shooting of Rabin in terms of Mishna 7 in Pirkey Avos Chapter 2.

“He (Hillel) saw a skull floating on the surface of the water.
He said to it: Because you drowned [another] you were drowned.
And the those who drowned you will, in the end, be drowned themselves.”

With respect to what the daughter of the Klausenberger said about Rabin’s murder, I assume she felt it sad that a Jew did not have a chance say the Shema and take other steps (including doing teshuva) before leaving this world.

]]> By: Netanel Livni http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2005/11/12/he-didnt-get-to-say-the-shma/#comment-45830 Netanel Livni Sun, 13 Nov 2005 06:56:14 +0000 http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2005/11/12/he-didnt-get-to-say-the-shma/#comment-45830 I don't see how a religious person can mourn Rabin. A man whose policies have led to over 1000 Jews murdered in just the past few years (not to mention all the victims of Oslo before this intifada). And lets not forget the cold-blooded murder of the Jews on the Altalena, Ravin was the commander of the force that opened fire on that ship. I don’t see how a religious person can mourn Rabin. A man whose policies have led to over 1000 Jews murdered in just the past few years (not to mention all the victims of Oslo before this intifada). And lets not forget the cold-blooded murder of the Jews on the Altalena, Ravin was the commander of the force that opened fire on that ship.

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