Comments on: Bush Won Florida in 2000 http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2005/08/22/bush-won-florida-in-2000/ A Journal of Jewish Thought and Opinion Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:49:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Toby Katz http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2005/08/22/bush-won-florida-in-2000/#comment-27218 Toby Katz Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:11:48 +0000 http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2005/08/22/bush-won-florida-in-2000/#comment-27218 to #1: I happen to think that politics IS very important to us as Jews living in America, but if you don't find certain posts interesting, please feel free to skip them and read the ones that do interest you. I don't plan to write about politics often and only wrote this one because someone else on c-c had trotted out that tired old line about the "stolen" election. to #2: the site I linked to was not mine, but Paul Krugman's, and is actually pretty useless. It is not based on the original 2001 report of the NY Times, which counted every single ballot that could possibly have been legally counted (and described in exhaustive detail how that was determined) -- and concluded that if the second recount had not been stopped by the US Supreme Court, Bush still would have won. I remind you that the NY Times endorsed Al-gore and did not WANT to find Bush the legal winner. to #1: I happen to think that politics IS very important to us as Jews living in America, but if you don’t find certain posts interesting, please feel free to skip them and read the ones that do interest you. I don’t plan to write about politics often and only wrote this one because someone else on c-c had trotted out that tired old line about the “stolen” election.

to #2: the site I linked to was not mine, but Paul Krugman’s, and is actually pretty useless. It is not based on the original 2001 report of the NY Times, which counted every single ballot that could possibly have been legally counted (and described in exhaustive detail how that was determined) — and concluded that if the second recount had not been stopped by the US Supreme Court, Bush still would have won. I remind you that the NY Times endorsed Al-gore and did not WANT to find Bush the legal winner.

]]> By: Sholom Simon http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2005/08/22/bush-won-florida-in-2000/#comment-26818 Sholom Simon Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:57:38 +0000 http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2005/08/22/bush-won-florida-in-2000/#comment-26818 You are misleading again. You wrote: "Mind-reading is not acceptable under any system of law, however, and would not have been part of the recount even under the most liberal Florida Supreme Court rules." Tell me: if a person punched out the hole next to "Gore" and then punched out a hole next to "Write In", and then wrote in "Gore" -- it is not mindreading to discern the voter's intentions. I urge all readers who care to inform themselves to check out www.norc.uchicago.edu/fl - under articles. Note, this is the very source Toby cited. You are misleading again. You wrote: “Mind-reading is not acceptable under any system of law, however, and would not have been part of the recount even under the most liberal Florida Supreme Court rules.”

Tell me: if a person punched out the hole next to “Gore” and then punched out a hole next to “Write In”, and then wrote in “Gore” — it is not mindreading to discern the voter’s intentions.

I urge all readers who care to inform themselves to check out http://www.norc.uchicago.edu/fl - under articles. Note, this is the very source Toby cited.

]]> By: DMZ http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2005/08/22/bush-won-florida-in-2000/#comment-26623 DMZ Tue, 23 Aug 2005 02:50:23 +0000 http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2005/08/22/bush-won-florida-in-2000/#comment-26623 Could we PLEASE get off this entire stupid subject? It has absolutely nothing to do with Orthodox Judaism whatsoever, and frankly is pretty whiny no matter what side you take. There are many, many politics blogs for you to rehash this stuff out on. Please don't screw this one up doing it. -DMZ Could we PLEASE get off this entire stupid subject? It has absolutely nothing to do with Orthodox Judaism whatsoever, and frankly is pretty whiny no matter what side you take. There are many, many politics blogs for you to rehash this stuff out on. Please don’t screw this one up doing it.

-DMZ

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